This is interesting.  That's not the way things are done here at all.  I'm
not saying it's not a good idea, I've just never heard of it before.  I took
a number of classes for which I hadn't fulfilled any of the prereq's and it
didn't cost me a thing.  Intro to Computers was a required course, but I
took it last because it was a waste of my time.  I had already been tech
support for several years by then.  In truth, I taught myself more hacking
on my High School's PC's than was taught in that allegedly college-level
course.  OTOH, I wasn't dumb enough to try to take Programming 2 before
Programming 1.  That's just counter productive.  I had several methods for
getting what I wanted out of school:

1) Take it at night.  The instructors understand that people who take night
classes have real jobs and lives.  Class sizes are smaller, and classes are
easier to get into.  Also, the students are much more serious about it or
they wouldn't be there.  They'd be out partying with everybody else.  More
difficult if you have a nighttime job, of course.

2) Go backwards.  Upperclassmen get priority in scheduling, so classes that
have lots of people registering for them should be taken later if possible.
Take the less popular ones first, that way you can get into the popular ones
when you have more credits, and thus higher priority.  Made easier if they
don't check pre-reqs and you know there are a few you can skip without it
hurting you.

3) Use the system to your advantage.  When I couldn't get the schedule I
wanted, I took independent study courses designed to substitute for the
in-class stuff.  If you find the right instructor you can usually arrange
this as long as you state up front that it's to replace the other course so
they know what you have in mind.

If you do it the way they tell you to, it's a real hassle.  If you work the
system properly, most of the time it can be made to work for you.  If you
find your school to be inflexible there's lots of competition, and it might
not hurt to remind them of that under certain circumstances.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Ozolins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 8:26 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: problem for non Linux users - Windoze users


On Friday 25 January 2002 07:23 am, Tom Wilson wrote:
> -----Original Message-----

>
> <rant on>
> If it is like my school , even though is says you have to have class 
> abc as a prereq to the upper level class, they never enforce it.  I 
> have missed several advanced classes I need because they were full 
> because of this reason.  Even the ones I have got into, you can tell 
> the people who didn't take the prereq's because the all drop 2 weeks 
> into the term.  I hate that, we have a limited numbers of seats in the 
> computer classes, they get filled by lusers who drop the class early, 
> and by the end of the term there are only 6 or 7 people out of 25 
> left.  If they would in enforce the prereq's all the people who need 
> the class could actually get into it for the get go. <rant off>

That's where a strong teacher/parent auxhillary makes a big dif. Here in 
Westbank, they have an individual who ensures that you have satisfied all 
pre-requ's prior to attending them. All the schools my two have gone to 
(Westbank BC, Edmonton Ab and Norman Wells NWT) have strongly enforced the 
pre-req per courses. If I were going to your school and lost out on a course

because the seets were taken up by a bunch of lusers would result in a
strong 
protest in writing to school principal with cc's to every government
official 
that has anyting to do with education. If you have not done this then you 
deserve to miss out on courses that you would like to attend. If you are 
waiting for someone else to do it for you it won't happen! If you are put
off 
on missing out on courses then I would sugest that you have a good look into

a mirror, because there looking back at you is the reason why 

-- 
Ted Ozolins (VE7TVO)
Westbank, B. C.
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