On 22 March 2012 14:48, John Carter <[email protected]> wrote:
> So I have a longish list of nifty packages useful for doing the sort of
> programming we do here...
>
> So as part of our "Set up a new developers box" process we install all of
> them.
>
> Alas, it wasn't nearly as simple as replacing apt-get install with pacman
> --sync to translate to Arch.
>
> Major differences...
>
> * Ubuntu splits things into library, library-dev and libary-doc. Arch
> doesn't. It's just library.
> * Ubuntu maintains old versions of autotools, flex, python, tcl, .... for
> the sound reason that not every program out there can be updated. Arch
> doesn't.
Huh O.o, does arch not have "Slots" like gentoo :(
sys-devel/automake
Available versions:
(1.4) 1.4_p6-r1
(1.5) 1.5-r1
(1.6) 1.6.3-r1
(1.7) 1.7.9-r2
(1.8) 1.8.5-r4
(1.9) < 1.9.6-r3 >
(1.10) 1.10.3
(1.11) < 1.11.1 > ~1.11.1-r1 ~1.11.2 ~1.11.2-r1 ~1.11.3
(9999) **9999
Installed versions:
1.9.6-r3(1.9)(09:30:01 05/03/12)
1.11.1(1.11)(09:29:12 05/03/12)
sys-devel/autoconf
Available versions:
(2.1) < 2.13 >
(2.5) 2.59-r7 2.61-r2 ~2.62-r1 2.63-r1 ~2.64 2.65 2.65-r1
2.67 < 2.68 > **9999
{emacs}
Installed versions:
2.13(2.1)(03:52:59 25/02/12)
2.68(2.5)(23:52:39 10/12/11)(-emacs)
dev-lang/python
Available versions:
(2.5) 2.5.4-r4
(2.6) 2.6.6-r2 ~2.6.7-r2
(2.7) 2.7.2-r3
(3.1) 3.1.4-r3
(3.2) 3.2.2
{-berkdb build doc elibc_uclibc examples gdbm ipv6 +ncurses
+readline sqlite +ssl +threads tk +wide-unicode wininst +xml}
Installed versions:
2.7.2-r3(2.7)(06:09:27 16/03/12)(gdbm ipv6 ncurses readline
ssl threads wide-unicode xml -berkdb -build -doc -elibc_uclibc
-examples -sqlite -tk -wininst)
3.2.2(3.2)(06:14:48 16/03/12)(gdbm ipv6 ncurses readline
ssl threads wide-unicode xml -build -doc -elibc_uclibc -examples
-sqlite -tk -wininst)
( it doesn't have slots for flex or tcl, but I guess it just hasn't
needed to because they're forwards/backwards compatible enough maybe )
> It's whatever latest and you probably have d/load and build anything
> ancient yourself. (Which can be a swine if it depends on ancient build tools
^^^ yucky , surely it has a system of adding optional 3rd party
repositories to access some of the more legacy things?
> etc.)
> * Arch list didn't seem to have
> # cccc
Definately in gentoo:
dev-util/cccc
Available versions: 3.1.4
Homepage: http://cccc.sourceforge.net/
Description: A code counter for C and C++
> # exim4
Gentoo : mail-mta/exim
Available versions: 4.76 ~4.76-r1 4.77 {X dcc +dkim dnsdb doc
dovecot-sasl dsn exiscan-acl gnutls ipv6 ldap lmtp maildir mbx mysql
nis pam perl postgres radius sasl spf sqlite srs ssl syslog tcpd}
Homepage: http://www.exim.org/
Description: A highly configurable, drop-in replacement
for sendmail
> # filelight
Gentoo: kde-base/filelight
Available versions: (4) 4.7.4 ~4.8.0 ~4.8.1
{aqua debug +handbook}
Installed versions: 4.7.4(4)(09:46:57 25/02/12)(handbook -aqua -debug)
Homepage: http://www.kde.org/
Description: Filelight creates an interactive map of
concentric, segmented rings that help visualise disk usage.
> # global
Gentoo: * dev-util/global
Available versions: 5.9.5 ~5.9.7 ~6.1 ~6.2 ~6.2.1 ~6.2.2 {doc emacs vim}
Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/global/global.html
Description: GNU Global is a tag system to find the
locations of a specified object in various sources.
I'm not trying to say "GENTOO IS TEH BETTAR!@@!@!@"
But I'm just trying to ascertain if what you allege is completely
true, surely Arch isn't that bad and you're just not seeing something?
That, and I've been tempted to try arch occasionally, just never found
more than a square tuit, but there are certain things I just can't
tolerate not having, and sensible behaviours like slotting are just
one such thing.
--
Kent
perl -e "print substr( \"edrgmaM SPA NOcomil.ic\\@tfrken\", \$_ * 3,
3 ) for ( 9,8,0,7,1,6,5,4,3,2 );"
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