hi,

Le mer 25/09/2002 à 15:22, Radovan Garabik a écrit :
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 03:11:43PM +0200, Pablo Saratxaga wrote:
> > Kaixo!
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 25, 2002 at 01:23:56PM +0200, Radovan Garabik wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Yes, dict (the program) and dictd are
> > > > > broken. Yes, the authors of dict and dictd don't understand i18n.
> > > > 
> > > > It has to be fixed.
> > > 
> > > Uhm, it is fixed. At least that is my impression
> > > form dict-beta mailing list (not perfectly, you have to run server
> > > under UTF-8 locale etc....).
> > 
> > Mmhhh... since the protocol *mandates* the use of UTF-8 it doesn't make
> > sense to have the server being locale-dependent.
> 
> it indeed does not, but it keeps backward compatibility
> 
> > 
> > Anyway, it doesn't change anything for me with ditcs 1.5.5
> 
> from the announcement of a new dictd (1.8.0):
> 
> Thanks to Aleksey Cheusov, a new version of dictd is available for
> download from http://sourceforge.net/projects/dict/ and from
> ftp://ftp.dict.org (slow).
> 
> Many thanks to Aleksey for making the changes and enhancements necessary
> for this release!
> 
> I think a summary of major changes is (did I miss anything major?):
>     0) better 8bit, UTF-8, and i18n support
>     1) dictfmt is now part of the dictd tarball
>     2) dictd supports plugins
>     3) dictd will use system libz when possible
> 
> 
> > 
> > > I do not know more details, since I am happily using serpento
> > > as UTF-8 dict server :-)
> >  
> > An url ?
> 
> http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/serpento/
> 
> > As I serve a DICT dictionnary (at moti.walo.org) for a language that
> > has a lot of words distinguished only by accents, it is quite annoying
> > to have the server return a lot of unwanted words.
> > 
> 
> that's why I wrote serpento in the first place (dictd was unusable
> at that time for UTF-8)
> 
> > Thanks
> 
> Ez horregatik


I am happy to see that dictd is improved, and I will try it very soon.

But, it drives me another question : I read yesterday everything I could
find about the protocol and the documentation about dict and dictd in my
linux box and on the site dict.org. They say that the dictfmt program
sorts the nouns according to the locale : when I build an russian-french
dictionnary, this is quite annoying !! the caracters are not in the same
order than the french locale of my linux box.

Is it not possible to have an unicode sort order, without changing the
local "locale", so it would be possible to build dictionnaries in a
consistent manner ????

And, I would like to test my "wordinspect2" program which is completely
UTF8 and only "utf8". Does one dict server exist which does really and
completely followthe standart ?? (localy or on a internet-site)

I will need this to test my program.

thank's for all your answers .

Eric!
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