Of course there is a way to put binaries on the devices but I don't
think we can find how without the original documentation, mainly
because:

1. There is no proof that JTAG is used here.
Only the ARM got a JTAG interface on our board and the main JTAG
feature is daisy chaining multiple chips on a single bus. Maybe the
in2g is initially programmed by an other protocol / bus, even by an
homemade simple serial bus.
But okay if I have to bet I choose JTAG.

2. The JTAG pins aren't clearly defined, that doesn't mean there are
no pins on our board but maybe the pins are one of the many board pads
( approximatly 15 pads and 4 JTAG pins -> impossible to guess even
with signal level tests (maybe I'm wrong but even if it's possible
this will take a very very long time)).

I really think there is no hope about JTAG without proper schematics /
boards layout.

JD.

On 04/10/2007, MsTiFtS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I doubt there are JTAG pins anywhere accessible on the board. I am
> wondering how they loaded the initial code to these devices, but I can't
> see any way to do this except before the chips where soldered to the
> boards. There is simply nothing on this board you cold make a quick
> connection  to except the dock port, but I doubt that JTAG is in there
> somewhere. That JTAG finder just helps to get the pinout if you have a
> dozen touchpoints on the board. Whe have the exact opposite problem:
> Nothing to hook up to. (Well, at least nothing I can see on the various
> PCB scans, I didn't get my fingers on a dissected iPod yet.)
>
> mat h schrieb:
> > http://www.c3a.de/wiki/index.php/JTAG_Finder ?
> >
> > On 9/28/07, *mat h* < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >     just an idea what chip is the ram? Alot of chips have debugging
> >     pins on them ( JTAG etc) does the ram chip?
> >
> >
> >     On 9/28/07, *Jeremy Prater* < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >         Hmmm, im going to stop my hunt then, I searched 19% of the
> >         keyspace, but it sounds like im wasting time here. Has anyone
> >         had any luck or ideas on how to dump the 256mbit/ 8meg ram?
> >         Ive got no ideas on even trying to get the ram out of there.
> >         Hehe except with a hammer... ok later im going to keep at it.
> >         -- Jeremy
> >
> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         From: Emmanuel Fleury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> >         Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 10:20 PM
> >         To: Hardware and developpement mailing list.
> >         Subject: Re: [Linux4nano-dev] Update to rc4 key search
> >         (optimized)
> >
> >         mat h wrote:
> >         > ok, just give me a bell if you need cpu power.
> >         >
> >         > Anyway what makes you so sure that the key is RC4?
> >
> >         It's not. We have some good clues against it.
> >
> >         Comparing several consecutive encrypted firmwares show us that
> >         the same
> >         key is used each time.
> >
> >         In the case of an RC4 (or any stream cipher scheme), it would
> >         mean that
> >         we could have some statistical properties poping out when
> >         XORing of two
> >         encrypted firmwares (namely we should see something similar to
> >         the
> >         statistical property of an ARM binary... As Serpilliere did
> >         mention it,
> >         ARM binaries have very specific statistical properties (on the
> >         'command'
> >         part)).
> >
> >         We tried and nothing came out from this, which means that it's
> >         very
> >         likely a block cipher scheme (with a fixed key).
> >
> >         Regards
> >         --
> >         Emmanuel Fleury
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