Je suppose que si tu enleve le disk raid, ca fonctionnera, mais pas int�ressant. Je 
dois dire
que perso, je n'utilise jamais le raid hardware, software fonctionne tres tres bien. 
Enfin
c'est hors du scope de toute facon. 

Je trouve ta r�ponse bien balanc�e, mais je pense que tu te tire dans le pieds en 
disant que si
tu ne recois pas de r�ponse, cela va influencer tes d�cisions profesionelles. Tu 
souligne
toi meme que c'est un call priv�...

De toute facon, tout le monde le sais, toutes les distros sont relativement pouries a 
part debian (stop, je sais,
je d�conne).

JeF

On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 11:35:49PM +0200, Vincent JAMART wrote:
> Hello
> thanks for your mail but I'm disapointed and I hardly disagree with your 
>argumentation on refusing help me much on a personnal support for std. installation. 
> 
> I know you receive lots of requests for specific drivers, but an IDE-ATA RAID 
>controller is now common on lots of motherboard, even cheap ones. MSI sent me a file 
>2 days ago, for an older chipset driver on RedHat 7.2 but as RH is distributed with 
>another kernel version and install type it does't work with Suse 8.0. (chipset is 
>Promise FastTrack133 lite, model 20276)
> MSI is now a first choice for lots of home users and my position is that having old 
>or new components doesn't matters on the purpose of using Linux. Just an install from 
>your CD or DVD screen 2 hangs. That's where I request a support from you. I don't 
>want to have help on tuning raid, making production system or something, just a basic 
>home install RUNNING, as does request lots of users (new or linux-confirmed). You're 
>not helping much on making people changing from MS windows product to Suse linux, as 
>their brand-new computer installs easilly with this OS. They don't want to waste time 
>patching a semi-commercial Linux (yes, Yast(2) is not under GPL...).
> 
> The fact that I'm also a system engineer for UNIX professionnals does not interfers 
>with the personnal use of a SuSE distribution at home. I was not expecting a support 
>in comparison with Sun or IBM 's ones (because they're professional-oriented Unices 
>and you pay lots for it) but I wrote this support in request expressly for my 
>personnal new computer installation with your fresh-8.0 distribution. I've also seen 
>on Kernel mailing lists that a patch has been released on kernel 2.4.19-pre3 just 
>about the chipset residing on my new motherboard. I think it's not difficult for your 
>team to adapt this patch on 2.4.18-4GB, as you already intergate support for drivers 
>from yours on out-of-cvs official kernel and because it's not my job to make it, 
>regarding the fact you sell a support with your package.
> 
> Finally, I have to write that for a 83.50 Euro operating system, you don't gave me 
>much support than I can find on newsgroups or google while working with a 
>free-downloadable RedHat distribution or even at Microsft Techline (worst experience).
> 
> I used to promote SuSE by my professionnals clients when they needed a Linux disto. 
>on x86 or IBM pSeries but regarding the delay of the support and its contents, I 
>guess I'll have to change my advices as consultant if you don't take corrective 
>actions on your reply. 
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Vincent Jamart 
> UNIX systems engineer
> Systemat Computers Luxembourg S.A.
> 
> 
>  
> On Thu, 16 May 2002 16:34:02 +0200 (CEST)
> SuSE Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (SuSE Support) wrote:
> 
> > Dear Mr Jamart,
> > 
> > Many thanks for your enquiry to SuSE Installation Support.
> > You wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello. I tried to install SuSE 8.0 on a new PC. The
> > > installation from DVD first required insertion of CD nr1 to boot
> > > image (???) and just after haedware scan, the install screen tells me
> > > it cannot find any hard disk to install on. The hardware is as
> > > follow: -AMD Athlon 2000xp, 2x512Mb DDR 266Mhz, nvidia Geforce 4 MX
> > > 440, Adaptec 2930CU, miro bt848, pioneer DVD rom, hp 8100+ cd-burner
> > > and the motherboard (the problem origin I guess): MSI KT3 ARU with
> > > AC97 sound chip and Promise ATA-133 MB Lite (IDE RAID). I connected
> > > the 2x 100Gb IDE hard disks (both Maxtor) to the mohrtboard, each as
> > > Master on IDE3 and IDE4 respectivelly and then I created a RAID-0
> > > logical striped disk from the motherboard bios. After the problem
> > > with suse install menu, I made a test, from windows 2000PRO
> > > setup(with Promise floppy driver loaded). W2K recignized a 200Gb
> > > logical disk, so my array is OK and I stopped W2K install (of
> > > course). I also tried to load linux kernel modules for Promise cards
> > > by hand with failsave install but on second module, it fails. Do you
> > > have an official/proprietary module that I can load during install of
> > > SuSE 8.0, allowing me to make an install with LVM? Thanks.
> > 
> > Your enquiry goes beyond the scope of our Free Installation Support. 
> > This support is intended primarily as a help to get a basic system up 
> > and running. In order to be able to keep this service running 
> > efficiently, we need to establish guidelines, as outlined in appendix A 
> > of your installation manual (page V in your configuration manual in 
> > SuSE Linux 7.2).
> > 
> > You can find an overview of Free Installation Support at:
> > 
> > http://www.suse.co.uk/uk/support/inst_support/support_overview.html
> > 
> > If you are using our distribution in a business environment,
> > we would like to acquaint you with our "Professional Services"
> > at the address http://support.suse.de/en/ (Phone +49 - 421 -
> > 5262330). There you can find support services which extend
> > to "in-house service".
> > 
> > Where questions of understanding are involved which go beyond the
> > scope of SuSE Installation Support, you are not left alone without
> > help. On your installed system you will find, for example, in the
> > directory /usr/share/doc/howto (the package howto) specific information
> > which you can read comfortably in the HTML version (package howtohtm)
> > with the SuSE help system or any other HTML browser.
> > 
> > Furthermore there is extensive documentation on most packages in the
> > directory /usr/share/doc/packages/PACKAGENAME.
> > 
> > Take a look in the series "doc" of your SuSE Linux CD-ROM.
> > There you will find a large selection of documentation. 
> > 
> > Solutions already exist for many questions concerning installation, in
> > our Support Database (SDB). This is also available in the packages
> > "sdb" and "sdb_cgi" (series "doc").  The current edition of the SDB is
> > available at all times at the address
> > http://sdb.suse.de/sdb/en/html. Just take a look!
> > 
> > To round off the selection of information, we maintain various mailing
> > lists. One of the great strengths of these lists is the up-to-date
> > nature of the information, as well as the possibility of exchanging
> > experiences with others, of discussing new concepts or simply making
> > contacts.
> > 
> > At the address http://www.suse.de/en/support/mailinglists/index.html you
> > will find all the necessary tips to use these. Please make sure that you
> > give your e-mail address correctly!
> > 
> > -- 
> > Best Regards,
> > 
> >       Your SuSE Support-Team
> >       Paul Morris
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > Telefon:  +44 845 025 0010
> > Web:      http://www.suse.de/en/support/inst_support
> > Mail:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > 
> 
> 



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-> Jean-Francois Dive
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