On Friday  September 17, 2004 03:26, eliroven wrote:
> --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Wyatt M. Portendt"
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> HI Wyatt
>
> I understand your situation, but also, I think you have been
> extremely unlucky (or your h/w is so new that you are ahead of your
> times in terms of Linux support).

The hardware should be very new.  I bought the computer less than two months 
ago and I ordered the best I could afford.


> I now run Mandrake 10 which I installed from scratch just  a few
> months ago and it went really well. All my periferals work (albeit
> not to their best ability admitely).

I tried Mandrake and it didn't install as well as SuSe.  I gave it two 
attempts and it was worse at finding things *on this system*.  It's not very 
encouraging to find out that I may get it to work, but that it won't work to 
its full potential.

>
> At home my wife and two 7 year old daughters all run the LInux side.
> For the lille'uns' games and a couple of other apps we go to the
> windows side.

I'd dearly love to use XP as a gaming machine only, but I have to get my Linux 
working much better than this.
>
> I admit that "out of the box", windows is still easier, but as soon
> as there is a problem (which eventually every one has) the windows is
> just, if not more, unfathomable than linux. I have a puter illiterate
> sister who has an XP box, whenever it goes broke, she has to call a
> friend to fix it or take it to a technical centre.

I haven't had a Windows "break" since Widows 95.  Admittedly, it takes a lot 
of work and I've gotten very good at cleaning it up and keeping the crud off.  
With XP it's been even easier and I run a firewalled and neutered Windows 
system that doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room for the bad stuff.  I don't 
get worms, spam, or viruses.  I've spent a lot of time learning how to avoid 
it.  The resources are abundant and not nearly as cryptic.  The help sites, 
forums, and mailing lists tend to be very patient and tolerant of people who 
ask even simple questions.  I'm rarely told that I need to figure it out 
myself, to RTFM, or find Google (I do that first, BTW).
>
> There is a lot to learn (and unlearn) with Linux, but I personally
> think it worth it. In 10 -15 years time we will look back at these
> tiems with nostalgia for the days when we still had/could peek around
> behind the scences :-)
>
> cheers, good luck and may the force be with you :-D

Thanks.  I'll plug away at it more when I have gobs of free time.  I have room 
on the hard drive for it to sit.


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