On 2005-04-10 17:29 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [rant] > so hitting i to edit is a screwup in interface design. > hitting esc to be able to save when everything but > vi,vim,emacs esc closes the program is another > screwup. > any application that operates in a way that is > completely at odds with 9,999 other applications needs > to be rewritten > [/rant] > when there are 10 thousand plus text editors that do > not rquire the switching modes, all of which are used > by prefference, then maybe that should tell the emacs, > vi, and vim developers to fix the problem.
PLEASE trim your replies. Scrolling through page upon page of quoted material that could easily be done away with is not exactly productive. I use vi myself from time to time, and have gotten more used to its design over time. True, it's not always the most *intuitive*, and it has its quirks, but like someone (I think it was Godwin) said - if you sit down behind the steering wheel in your car, wave your arms and expect to get anywhere, you can't be spending much money on fuel. People use vi/vim and GNU Emacs because they want to. Those who don't want to have plenty of other choices as far as text editing is concerned. By the way, what other 99.9% of the programs are exited when you press the Escape key? GNU nano doesn't work that way, MPlayer doesn't, OpenOffice.org doesn't exit. Nor does ls, find or Totem, right along with Mozilla/Firefox and Gaim. That's just a few of the programs I use on a regular basis. As a matter of fact, I can't think of any one program I use regularly that exits when you press the Escape key. As for being a "standard" editor, vi (in some incarnation) is standard in the sense that it is available on most any Unix-like system. This doesn't necessarily mean that it will behave like your run-of-the-mill X11 text editor. It does mean that it will behave like you expect vi to behave. Are you trolling, or merely ignorant? -- Michael Kj�rling, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://michael.kjorling.com/ * ASCII Ribbon Campaign: Against HTML Mail, Proprietary Attachments * * No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings. -*- SM0YBY * To unsubscribe from this list, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] & you will be removed. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LINUX_Newbies/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
