Hello Joan,

JL> --- digital_brahman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Being a Linux Freak, I was shocked to see almost every computer on
>> campus with only Windows 98 or Windows NT (at the server). Why do
>> you think that this is so?

Because the people who buy computers and decide what operating systems
to run are not computer techs, and make their purchasing decisions
based on things other than which is the leading edge, in computing
advancement.

They are running operating systems that are quite old, so they
probably have not upgraded their equipment in a long time. If the
physical computers were new when the Windows 98 and NT OS's were
installed, they might be early Pentium machines, which would be
capable of running Linux, but probably not the latest, greatest
versions, which can be pretty resource hungry, by 1998 standards.

>> Linux if free and with flavors like Linspire, Red Hat and Mandrake
>> - it's getting easier to install and use.
>> 
>> Debian and BSD, according to me, still provide some of the best
>> free development tool which is essential to a developer like
>> myself.

'Free', as far as initial cost, does not mean 'free', in terms of
implementation... especially on a platform as large as a major
university.

I am a single individual with a personal LAN, and am currently running
Red Hat Enterprise, Debian HPPA (on an HP9000 PA-RISC server),
FreeBSD, and Windows 2k Pro.

While I am a serious student of *nix, and see Open Source as the wave
of the future, I came from a DOS-Windows upbringing, and have some
software, and a couple pieces of hardware, that are useful enough to
me (or have nostalgic attachment, like some of my really old DOS
applications), so that I will probably keep Win2k around indefinitely.

Making the move from WinDOS to *nix was definitely not 'free'. I do
use my computers to earn my living, and it has taken me a lot of time
reading, studying, practicing, etc., to become even basically
competent as a small LAN administrator, and me, being the only person
using the LAN.<g>

Don't get me wrong... I really love *nix now, which make the extra
work/study a pleasure, more than a chore, but as a person who grew up
with DOS, and then Windows (I was a DOS-Windows techie, too, not a raw
end-user)... making the move to *nix, while at the same time keeping
my small business running smoothly, was no simple matter, and I am
still not completely finished with the transition, after roughly 3.5
years under my belt, working with Linux.

I can only imagine how hard it might be for a university to make the
switch for Windows to *nix, without interrupting the operations of the
university.


Friday, June 17, 2005, 1:28:29 AM, Joan wrote:

JL> It's not just in India, it's in the state of Nevada,
JL> too.  The community college has classes in A+
JL> hardware/software, Unix and Linux, but we have to have
JL> removable drives in those computer classes, plus the
JL> rows of PCs have to be unlocked because of the Sentry
JL> system they use to allow any OS to be installed.  I
JL> know they use Linux for the campus phone messaging. 
JL> They may be using Netware somewhere, too.

JL> But at the 4-year college they don't have the classes
JL> described like this.  I know one of my teachers was a
JL> System Admin in their computer center, and said you
JL> better learn your BASH and VI if you want to be one.

JL> I remember one Linux student brought his own laptop
JL> and plugged it in so he could use Linux instead of
JL> Windows when he could.  He said he was going to
JL> transfer to a school with more Linux classes.  I think
JL> our higher learning tuition dollars may convince the
JL> schools in the end.  Or the businesses clamber for
JL> more of us to be trained.

In my opinion, you people in university now, are the very first true
generation of Linux Users. Your teachers and the folks running the
universities grew up, as I did, with DOS and Windows (and Mac) on
their PC's. So it is going to be *your* job to implement *nix and Open
Source computing in the universities... not by demanding that the
previous generation change (they were, after all, the ones who got
computing of any sort onto the university curricula).

You will probably wind up getting *nix and Open Source into the
universities... and from there as the dominant computing model in the
world, displacing Windows and Closed Source, not by bothering the
teachers and administrators who are now in place to change... but by
graduating, and taking their jobs over, and implementing the changes
yourselves.<g>

 
-wittig
website: http://www.robertwittig.com/
weblog: http://robertcwittig.blogspot.com/
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