Hello from Gregg C Levine
I confess I missed the original message as well. Drat! But I do agree
with the sentiments expressed in the last part of the message. I'll post
a copy of it here:
> Speaking of which we probably should put together
> some kind of conference/workshop for LinuxBIOS.  So the developers can
> get together and talk face to face.
>
That's what I agree with. Are any of you planning on attending the LWE
conference & Expo in any form, next year? I'll be there, attending the
exhibits. The idea is, that we should discuss more about what we are
working on here. Sorry that didn�t come out right. I was transcribing my
thoughts, there, and sometimes they don't work out correctly. And the
usual caveats about double posts apply. If any of you don't appreciate
it, please complain directly.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:linuxbios-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Preston L. Bannister
> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 2:10 PM
> To: Eric W. Biederman; Ronald G Minnich
> Cc: LinuxBIOS
> Subject: RE: the plan for stable
> 
> Missed the original message, but I do have a couple suggestions.
> 
> You only know if LinuxBIOS is "stable" on a particular motherboard
when one
> or more people have gotten it to work on one or more revisions and
instances
> of that motherboard.  The more cumulative experience the greater your
faith.
> 
> Perhaps the record you want is:
> 
>       Reporter (email)
>       LinuxBIOS version (tagged in CVS)
>       Motherboard version
>       Number of boards (especially in clusters)
>       Status: working/no known problems, some problems, not working
>       Description (optional, brief) of how used and any known
problems.
> 
> To be able to *start* with a working version of LinuxBIOS (if one
existed),
> and then move forward is a huge advantage.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric W. Biederman
> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2002 10:38 PM
> 
> Ronald G Minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > A short sketch.
> >
> > What I want to do, but have not had time to do. For each mainboard,
we
> > designate an owner. The owner is responsible for letting us know
that
> > their mainboard works. Mainboards are in one of 3 states: (stable,
> > unstable, unsupported)
> >
> > Mainboards start out in the unstable or unsupported state.
> >
> > We pick a date (1/1/03?) and say we want all owners of all
mainboards to
> > tell us that their mainboard is stable. We freeze the tree one month
> > ahead of that time and the only changes that go in are for
stabilization.
> 
> 1 January 2003 is a bad date for me as I have plans to be far
> away from computers over christmas.
> 
> > If nobody steps up for a board, it goes to unsupported state. Boards
with
> > owners start out in the unstable state.
> 
> The challenge is for a lot of boards we do not get active feedback
> after a port has been completed.  So for any ongoing work we need
> to very very careful not to make changes to the core that break ports.
> I am probably the worst offender, except for the various bits of debug
> code that come and go but still.
> 
> > Mainboards move to the stable state when the owner confirms
stability.
> > When patches are made for a problem, ALL stable mainboards revert to
> > unstable. We iterate until we get it solid, then freeze it.
> 
> For the first round this looks o.k, it really depends on what
> kind of feedback we have.
> 
> > This information is maintained by a file in each mainboard directory
> > called STATUS, which consists of name/value paris.
> 
> One file in the root directory called STATUS should do it..
> 
> > Will this work?
> 
> Sounds like a good rough draft.  The very important thing
> about the stable series is that nothing happens to the core
> code that could possibly break a motherboard port.  That
> way within a stable series we can get more but not fewer
> boards working.
> 
> Then whenever a new port gets working we can do another release.
> Of course if the come in fast enough we can delay...
> 
> > thanks (I'm off email for a bit -- at a workshop)
> 
> Speaking of which we probably should put together
> some kind of conference/workshop for LinuxBIOS.  So the developers can
> get together and talk face to face.
> 
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