I just want to rise, RESPECTFULLY, *YOUR* paradox : Look you are talking about spams on maillist right ? >: Gosh ! And you dare keeping up the title flash_n_burn rom utils, /dev/bios ... title that has no meaning in regards of your mail's content. That's a bit strong ! As a result (maybe) a depreciation of the original topic : who'd like to follow a swinging topic from flashin' chips to spam issue on maillist ?
Nevertheless, this resquest (the early one : "fear" of the hot plug and means to avoid it) on which you gained attention -as you said- may be not of your interest but you could respect it and not try (intended or not !) to pollute it. Have you noticed, moreover, it seems to be a shared resquest (many reactions) ? For all his, I think that you've act like people you denounce and I'am sorry for you. respectfully and with no hard feelings mathieu ps final 'peak' : IMO, putting [linuxbios] before titles is a *bad* idea : on a linuxbios maillist, the only root topic is linuxbios obviously so no need to repeat it in title ... Le mer 21/04/2004 Ã 07:50, Chris a Ãcrit : > > > > > > I am not saying it is, just that when you view the subject > > lines they often > > > appear like subjects designed to foil filtering systems > > > > Subject lines are for humans the other headers are for machines. > > > > I have given up on filters. Dont trust them to do the job. so I use them to > pick the obvious spam > then the remaining emails get scanned by trusty human eye and brain for the > final decision. > > Unfortunately some of the very cryptic subject lines appear to be spam so I > tossed the first few until I realised my mistake. > (bugger does that make me as reliable as spam filters) > > I will try the list-id header. and mark it as friendly if it has it. > > > > Re: [linuxbios] Re: [linuxbios] > > If the list server placed the tag in it wouldn't be a problem and no-one > would have to type it > the list server can delete any redundant tags and then forward the mail > > > > > > As for adding numbers for general categories that is just silly. If > > you want to describe what is going on feel free to add: [IDEA] or > > [PATCH] or whatever. Enumerations with numerical values are just > > silly when they are for human consumption. > > not really its just shorter to read and write, with only 6 choices the ASRG > works very well > > > The next logical step is > > to progress forward to writing programs in machine code to give more > > control so they are not susceptible to viruses. > > > > now your just being really silly > > Regards > Chris > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Eric W. Biederman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric W. > > Biederman > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 3:03 PM > > To: Chris > > Cc: John Usher (Maptek); [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: flash_n_burn rom utils, /dev/bios ... resquest > > > > > > "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I am new to this group and currently in the lurk stage > > > > > > but can I pass a comment/suggestion. > > > > > > I get a huge amount of spam, and on a cursory glance a lot of > > the mail from > > > this group "appears" spammy > > > > > > I am not saying it is, just that when you view the subject > > lines they often > > > appear like subjects designed to foil filtering systems > > > > Subject lines are for humans the other headers are for machines. > > > > > can I suggest a standard element be placed in the subject line such as I > > > have done > > > > > > that way it will be easier to seperate the linux bios mailings > > from the spam > > > mailings > > > > Look at the List-Id: that should be completely constant. That is what > > I filter by and it makes it trivial. I filter not to get rid of spam > > but to separate the LinuxBIOS mailing list traffic and the linux > > kernel mailing list traffic etc. > > > > If you want something practically spoof proof ask for the mailing > > list to gpg sign messages. Then you can be certain the message > > at least came from the mailing list. > > > > I have not seen any spam come through this mailing list. Or even > > spoofed as such. > > > > If you really want to stop spam. Don't concentrate on the fact > > that it is unwanted mail. Concentrate on the fact that it is > > bulk mail, and that it is generally fraudulent. Detecting mail is > > passing in bulk or that it does not have a legitimate source do not > > sound like hard problems. > > > > > I am also a member of the ASRG "Anti Spam Research Group" and they use a > > > system that looks like this > > > > > > subject: [ASRG] 3: description > > > > > > the number is for pre-organised topics such as 0 = general 1 = new ideas > > > etc... > > > > Things like that get extremely ugly when you cross post, > > or the mailing system does not recognize your Re: line > > so you get things like: > > > > Re: [linuxbios] Re: [linuxbios] > > or: > > Re: [linuxbios] RE: flash_n_burn rom utils, /dev/bios, ... resquest > > > > And we have a diverse enough crowd we don't get consistent recognition > > of the Re: line anyway. Yhlu I think posts with Chinese character > > set which makes things interesting. > > > > Hacked subject lines just clutter up things up. > > > > As for adding numbers for general categories that is just silly. If > > you want to describe what is going on feel free to add: [IDEA] or > > [PATCH] or whatever. Enumerations with numerical values are just > > silly when they are for human consumption. The next logical step is > > to progress forward to writing programs in machine code to give more > > control so they are not susceptible to viruses. > > > > Eric > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linuxbios mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios > _______________________________________________ Linuxbios mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.clustermatic.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxbios
