Eric W. Biederman wrote:

> Bari Ari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>  
> 
>>For embedded apps. USB is becoming a preferred method for booting since 
>>serial ports are no longer included on the many of the latest chipsets.
>>
> 
> Which generally makes using a serial console pretty hard doesn't it. 
> Or in other words what do people use for a console on a board like
> that.  I admit I have heard interesting stories about ring buffers, in
> ram but that doesn't sound quite approriate either.
> 
> My memory has it that most serial ports are on superio chips anyway so
> I don't see their lack of inclusion on a chipset as a problem.


For many embedded apps cost and or board space is very much a concern 
and to add the $5 for the superI/O just to get a serial console is out 
of the question.

Intel has been trying to push the serial ports into legacy for the past 
few years, so serial ports have been disappearing from many boxes. A USB 
console may be the simplest approach to development and debug on the up 
coming machines.

Bari


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