> I'd like to use the linux kernel as a bootloader too. But there are
> problems with that.
> A lot of people who want to use LinuxBIOS are not thinking about clusters.
> They have desktops and servers and want to replace their BIOS and still
> proceed in desktop and server functionality.
> The Linux kernel isn't fitting in 256k anytime soon. It's a tight fit in
> 512k. Commodity consumer motherboards aren't shipping with 1Mbyte eeproms
> any time soon.
> People don't want to swap out their prom for a disk on chip. They don't
> want to patch or compile a kernel. They don't want installing LinuxBIOS to
> take all day. They want simple functionality in a small amount of time.
> The linux booting linux scheme isn't delivering that for the
> desktop/server user right now.
> 
> Linux booting linux works great for cluster nodes. The admittadly small
> but annoying investment on a DiskOnChip for every node is worth it.
> Spending a day getting just the right functionality out of the linux
> kernel is worth it. People running clusters are experianced and
> knowledgable so it's not a big deal.
> 
> But when some system administrator wants to use LinuxBIOS I want to be
> able to point him to our rom-o-matic type web site, a place to download a
> working bootloader, and a nice little utility to make it all come together
> so he never has to think about it again. LinuxBIOS gains popularity more
> quickly and maybe some chipset makers or motherboard manufacturers take
> notice and start to make our lives easier.
> 
> I like the leaving everything to linux philosophy too. And if all
> motherboards shipped with big generous eeproms we wouldn't even be having
> this discussion. What can I say? I need a way to boot LinuxBIOS on 256k
> for desktop and server machines.

I am building appliance type devices, and servers, rather than clusters.
Big eeproms would be nice, but perhaps another solution would be to use a 
usb flash dongle as the secondary boot device. I know a lot of people who
would like to use this, as they have to carry them around with crypto keys
anyway, so having your root fs too would be nice.

Justin

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