[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <SNIP> > Taking into consideration shipping costs, it might be less expensive to have > the shirts produced locally (lettering wouldn't have to be English). <SNIP> I would certainly hope that the shirts would be available in their local language. Cruising the web, it is obvious that Linux is not simply an "English" speaking phenomenon. Once again, I see our job as being to hunt down mechanisms for doing these things ... not as the doers of them. I think we need to do our best to stay clear of physical property / large hunks of money. We are an ad hoc committee with NO accountability except within our own little circle. Can you imagine the expense involved in simply registering ourselves as a non-profit corporation in every participating legal jurisdiction? I shudder to think of it! If we have to do that, we need 5 years lead time ... not a few months! C'mon folks, the simpler we keep this show, the better our chances of doing it cleanly, professionally and successfully. We do NOT have a huge staff, we do NOT have a huge budget to hire one. We do NOT have 5 years lead time. Let's keep this down to what we CAN do. On LDD, we want thousands of people to get a really good look at the capabilities of Linux. Anything that detracts us from that needs to be discarded. Anything that gives us good value in pursuit of that goal needs to be kept and reinforced. Want t-shirts? Fine, establish a design and locate a provider and let the LUGS know where to send their money. We don't need to profit from those sales and we certainly don't need Deepak (or anyone else) sleeping on piles of un-sold t-shirts still in the boxes. I am not convinced we need to sell t-shirts in order to demo software though ... I just don't see the connection. I, personally would be more inclined to give credence to a "guy in tie" than to a "punk in funk" talking about moving my business, school, agency, personal computer over to some wierd OS called "Linux" (sounds like a tableware manufacturer!). The product even featues a fat penguin with herring breath and beer farts as a mascot! Whatever credibility we can garner, we need! Is there anyone on this list who could scour the world for suppliers who will take our design (on speculation) and make the screens to print the shirts for (relatively) local delivery? If we can find ONE supplier in each country who can do this work then we eliminate excessive shipping lag. The suppliers will figure out how to deliver the shirt and the financial details concerning them. If they price them too high, they won't sell many. We can add the names & contact information of approved vendors to the LDD web site. If we start getting emails about poor service or product, etc, they will come off the list without any further discussion. Quite frankly, I would like to have a couple of YOTP99 t-shirts for casual wear / conversation starters BEFORE LDD. However, ON LDD, I will be the "guy in tie" type. At any rate, that is my 2 cents worth. Bill
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