On 17/06/06 15:36 +0530, Harsh Busa wrote:
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> -- apple / xerox invented / built.

Those who do not learn from history...

Xerox PARC laboratories developed the WIMP metaphor. Apple licensed it
and brought GUIs to the public. 

MS copied it (thankfully there were no patents on UI elements in the US
then).

> >
> >> with all nerds / geeks and self proclaimed gods of software
> >> sitting in labs ... so what if he didnot build everything on his
> >> own ... so what he wanted to earn a lot of money . ... a lot more
> >> than anyone could possibily think of ...
> >
> >> it is our job to take this vision  in a more cleaner way
> >Are u joking what vision - robbing other's software, writing illegal
> >contracts, being the big bully, writing software with more holes than
> >a sieve. And that is not my concotion - it's recorded in various
> >court judgements across the world.
> 
> you have a very very myopic and biased opinion abt sw industry and
> attributing all the bad things to only 1 company which maynot be
> correct.

I don't think that JTD is blaming a single company. Only one company was
mentioned in this context.

> yes not all his business practices have been good. neither does
> everyone else work like angels in utopia.
> 
A billion flies ...

> also i m talking abt the fact about  making computing more accessible
> and simpler. NOT THE WAY IN WHICH IT IS DONE. and thats where you have
> to understand the meaning of world CLEANER in context to the
> statement.
> 
The end never justifies the means.

> You are just being tremondously biased against microsoft which
> according to me is not correct.
> 
> if remember RMS words or Dr Nagarjun, the realm of propritery  didnot
> start with MS, it started with companies trying to monetize on unix,
> .... other companies just made it worse ...
> 
And that absolves Microsoft of what guilt?

> Do you really think if MS were to close down or opensource everything
> all the evil would be over ?
> 
I disagree that all the issues would go away. But Microsoft is the
biggest symbol of what is wrong with todays computing industry.

What has Microsoft actually contributed to the computing industry?
(They have excellent technical people there, they don't have management
and salespeople with ethics). What creative activities has Microsoft
shown to the world?

IBM was hated for trying to exert excessive control. So is MSFT.

Devdas Bhagat

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