On Tuesday 12 September 2006 04:58 pm, Dinesh Shah wrote: > Dear Terrence,
> We will call the issuing authority Citizen Information Authority - > CIA. :-) sheesh. I love the CIA u known. Endless entertainment u know. > > > Who decides what is accessible and what isnt? > > All public info is accessible. What is public and what is private > is what we are debating on. Some conclusion will be arrived at on the public private score. But that is not the issue. The issue is who decides the access of the private data? it has to be the person to whom the id belongs to. If anyone else requires this data he has to be permitted by the id owner. > > > What has caste, religion got to do with identity? > > Nothing... I am against recording such info. But the Census > department and other departments may gather this type of info for > other purposes like reservations, demographic and social analysis. precisely what they should not be doing - framing policies based on religion and caste. > > > Who has access to the audit trail? > > Anybody authorised by CIA. Has to be every citizen rather than some babu autorizing someone. That way i check my data and it's (mis)use and you yours and so on. No third party freaking out on my data while fourth party sipping beer at Phuket. > > > > 5) Domicile certificates > > Never heard about this one... If u live in state a and want a state job or admission in state b u need this afaik. > This can be possible if we de-link issue of ID and > verification/validation of the same. You can verify/validate ID at > later stage may be at 1st use? Dangerous fallacy. without the esential of establishing relationship u are mandating verification for all 1 billion of us (+ 100 odd million visiting (permanently?) us). > To start with we can have simple data to be collected. More > elaborate stuff can wait for later date. The primary problem IS verification. Using DNA allows a "uniqe" individual print without the physical verification part. So if during initial id A masquerades as B and by implication is son of C. no problem cause C who is actually father of B will show up in the db on scrutiny. This is of course presuming that B is in the database or is alive and can be included in the db. One can still spoof by producing sombody els's dna but it would show up after some time even if spoofer was in cahoots with very many people. If there is no verification then the birth cert is good enough just computerise it and attach a taxonomy number and all wil be well with the world. There are social problems with dna printing - illegit kids, heridetory diseases (insurance), homosexuality, and genetic medical procedures. These have a very real potential of preventing it's acceptance. Apart from the above academic excercise WHY do u require a unique computer traceableid? I dont see any reason at all. It will be misused by the power that be eg crooked st officer raises demand for huge sum payable by you to the state govt. then puts up notice to all travel services to prevent u from scurrying away. What are the benefits? I dont see any that existing id methods do not fulfil completely. The ones who want such ids are the biggest duty shirkers in the first place eg credit rating agencies, assorted government depts.. -- Rgds JTD -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
