On Friday 22 September 2006 21:37, krishnakant Mane wrote: > On 22/09/06, Dinesh Shah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I completely agree with you Rony. When you attack your opponent > > you are generally seen in poor light. > > Roni and dinesh, please read my previous email and also one more in > this same thread. I clearly mentioned I am not attacking any one. > I just want to market the truth. > > > Indeed, instead of a rant show them what is possible and what > > "advantage" the customer is going to get. >. I have already given a money back > promis to a person that in next 6 months
That is one more tactic I follow and forgot to mention. If i feel the customer is a fence sitter, I make the offer of pay after things are working satisfactorily. But make absolutely sure that u define clearly what is satisfactory and expect to show 50% more than that definition. Also regarding hostile hardware vendors, I have the advantage of casual name dropping on past projects and huge experience in the industry, which invariably hangs the guy like an XP box - only a boot will help him. > there will be no virus > attack on his complete linux machine, and unless there is no big > issue the system will work very well in general. A virus attack sends out confidetial info. Besides, a doze box sends data any way. And nothing like a live demo of exploits. Setup a linux proxy. Setup the client doze box to connect to the net via the proxy tail -f /var/log/squid/access.log on the linux box. U will find windoze / AVG / Norton / sundry trojans sending packets to the yonder. Tell the small biz man about how he is mince meat. Tell him that the IT dept just floated a tender for 20K machines and the ST guys are employing net spies to snoop his data. Tell him this is the simple test. There are other methods like backdoors / dns spoofing / unicode exploit (forgot what it's called) / add your scaremonger thing. If the customer is ok but the hardware guy is a problem ask him to attack your machine and offer to do the same to his machine - by software ofcourse. Good ole "lets u and me fight". everyone loves a good fight no. Of course load several exploits on to your machine for just such a demo. There are tons on the net. Krishnakant u are making us into mecenaries ;-). -- Rgds JTD -- http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
