2007/5/29, Vihan Pandey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

To paraphrase what GNU has said : We must not judge all of a person by just
part of what they do.

I thought he was the founder (and main funder) of Ubuntu and Canonical.

Mark Shuttleworth has AFAIK - NEVER done anything to harm/hurt Free
Software. The only thing one can do is continue requesting Canonical to
release launchpad as Free Software and if they are not doing it for some
reason to kindly state that.


I, for one, don't use Ubuntu anymore, don't recommend it any more
until they fix these issues

http://fci.wikia.com/wiki/User:Pravs/What_Ubuntu_should_do_to_regain_my_confidence

So for me gNewSense, Debian, Fedora ... are much more important than
Ubuntu (but again it is better than Windows, Suse ...). Freedom aspect
is not the top priority for Ubuntu (Ubuntu website highlights Free of
Cost availability).

By the way - has anyone done this so far?


I didn't get it. Did you mean anyone released their distro infrastructure?

Debian uses only Free Software for its infrastructure and it promises
to give back to the community any new tools created.

"When we write new components of the Debian system, we will license
them in a manner consistent with the Debian Free Software Guidelines."
http://www.us.debian.org/social_contract

If you have anything else besides the use of launchpad to incriminate him
with please post the same.

see the wiki link. It is not just launchpad, the entire data stored in
the infrastructure is in proprietary format (Remember the case of
bitkeeper). And Ubuntu does not give credit to the GNU project.

"Calling this variant of the GNU system "Linux" plays into the hands
of people who choose their software based only on technical advantage,
not caring whether it respects their freedom. There are people like
Barr, that want their software "free from ideology" and criticize
anyone that says freedom matters. There are people like Torvalds that
will pressure our community into use of a non-free program, and
challenge anyone who complains to provide a (technically) better
program immediately or shut up. There are people who say that
technical decisions should not be "politicized" by consideration of
their social consequences."
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/linux-gnu-freedom.html

So for me Ubuntu is down the list of Free Software distributions and I
would support all distributions that gives Freedom more importance
than ease of use/technical merit.

You will have to use a non-free program to participate in ubuntu
development and your contributions will be stored in a proprietary
format, you could retrieve it only through that program (remember
bitkeeper).

Again I have no personal hatred against Mark Shuttleworth. He has done
a wonderful job in getting GNU/Linux to masses and he is a great
speaker and amazingly good at convincing people. But that doesn't mean
I have to agree to everything he does.

Cheers
Praveen
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