On 6/13/07, Dinesh Joshi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Get your facts straight before you reply. a message encrypted with a 128
bit key DES is no more secure than a 64 bit key DES. Actually the length
of the key is only 56 bit in the latter case.

Please cite a source for this. I'd like to know how DES is done with a
128 bit key.

The Data Encryption Standard (DES) implies the use of a 56 bit key.
Change the key length and you'll have to change multiple parameters of
the algorithm. For example, with a 56 bit key, the algorithm works on
64 bits of data at a time. This chunk definition, substituter blocks
and permutation blocks will all have to change, hence changing the
very nature of the algorithm. You will hence have to end up with a
DES-like algorithm rather than the DES algorithm, albeit with a larger
key size. Difficulty in brute forcing a crypt is then just a function
of the key size -- more the bits, more difficult it is.

Here's apparently the first case of DES being broken by brute force:

http://www.interhack.net/pubs/des-key-crack/


PS: I'm not a crypto expert, I'm just trying to reason out stuff based
on facts I read up. Please correct wherever applicable.


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