On Wednesday 20 June 2007 15:39, Roshan wrote:
> --- jtd wrote:
> > Whatever gave you the idea that fedora is "mature".
>
> It has grown from the late nineties (in the form of
> RH) and has developed into a community distros over
> these years.

It was started primarily due to the bad blood caused by RH abandoning 
individual user support. They worked towards creating a community 
like Debian, but with some major limitations.

> > The fedora series
> > is  means of testing out stuff and then using the
> > results in the RH
> > enterprise whatever.
>
> This means, if the test is successful and stable
> enough to be included with RH, the same is (or should
> be) available in Fedora. Right?

Not neccessarily. You need to patch, update and put out a distro after 
checking it on innumerable combinations. Fedora is like Debian 
unstable, plenty of the latest and greatest alongwith fixes from the 
last distro. when you install debian unstable your system breaks 
invariably. but it is fairly easy to fix almost always. Same with 
Fedora. And you most certainly dont need to reboot just to fix grub 
or entering the proper entries in /etc/fstab.

>
> > New users should not be installing anything anyway.
> > Least of all a
> > full blown linux distro not designed for a newbie
> > desktop user.
>
> Would the case have been the same for RH9 in those
> days? (just curious)

It is the case with all OSes. If you took care to know what hardware 
you purchased and had some understanding of how an install is 
organised, it is (and was) quite easy. In thepast the 1810 mobo with 
graphics that shared main ram, 6215 pci vga card, rtl8139 chipset, 
usb webcams, had been the cause of numerous failed installs -but was 
fixed quite easily. One cannot expect newbies to understand that xyz 
chipset has secret sauce registers that require nda agreements for 
writing a few bits into them to make it work. Or that a particular 
implemetation of a standard is broken etc. Installation is the job of 
a system vendor. There are distros like knoppix or kubuntu that is 
targeted at a limited set of users with limited set of packages. The 
authors observations might have been valid for such very limited 
cases. 


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Rgds
JTD

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