>>> On Thu, Aug 30, 2007 at  2:44 PM, in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jtd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> On Thursday 30 August 2007 13:43, Mrugesh Karnik wrote:
> 
>>
>> The thing is, people other than you also have likes, dislikes,
>> opinions, points of view etc. 
> 
> We are talking of technical, commercial and legal aspects - all of 
> which are grounded in fact and logic - not the color of somebody's 
> undepants
> 
>> For example, I don't know about 
>> anyone else, but I dislike the way you state your opinions. Now
>> that's just my opinion.
>>
>> Are we OT already?
> 
> the digressed discusion was about licences and alleged fud 
> But your abv sentence is definetly ot.
> Note that we still dont have any reply to our grouse about Novell's 
> licence - Rahulkrishna Gupta has a novell.com email so i presume that 
> he is a Novell employee. Searching google i find  his posts from 2001 
> so i presume he is quite thoroughly aware of the poltics of 
> freesoftware. So his statement about me spreadind fud is ????.  It 
> happens all the time all over the world, make a statement about 
> Novell licence and someone will spring at you with inuendo. But never 
> in all these months a simple statement of fact. These are the 
> packages that are restricted and these are the packages that are 
> libre. such a statement would make the Microvell deal a simple 
> business decision not the subterfuge that it seems to us on the 
> outside - designed to con the innocent and misappropriate from the 
> commons.

I am not here to make any political statements. All I asked in my post was 
reasons for making statements like "avoid like plague", reasons which were not 
mentioned. And hence it was akin to spreading FUD.

Here's the definition from wikipedia

Fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD) is a sales or marketing strategy of 
disseminating negative (and vague) information on a competitor's product. The 
term originated to describe disinformation tactics in the computer hardware 
industry and has since been used more broadly. FUD is a manifestation of the 
"appeal to fear."

I believe you were doing just that in the absence of any concrete reasons/facts 
to back your statement.

Yes I work with Novell and I am not hiding it. But it was not in good taste to 
look up my history or antecedents, things which had nothing to do with my query.

Innuendo = disparaging remarks.  I don't think I made any. All I did was 
request you to provide the basis for your statements.

Regarding your statement of information not being made available, a little 
effort on your part would have lead you to 
http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/

A lot of information on the agreement is available on this site.

If you are still not convinced, please go ahead and form your opinion. To use 
or not to use SUSE is your choice. But please refrain from making the kind of 
statements you did without fact and logic.

I believe one of the objective of this list is to engage in constructive 
discussions on Linux and Open Source. I am all for it. But if you want to get 
into a slanging match of us vs Novell, then I am not interested and will desist 
from posting any further comments on this topic.


Regards,
Rahul





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