On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:58:29 +0530, Unknown  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On 10/18/07, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 03:07:22 +0530, Unknown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> said:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I beg to differ.  Snorting cocaine also gives a short term feeling of
>> energy and creativity, but is detrimental in the long run.
>> Conspiring with software hoarders, who hoard software and knowledge
>> for profit, and buying the cool-aid, is not of any long term utility.
>> 
> Agreed. _No long term utility_! The value and wealth of knowledge
> might eventually get lost in the long run. But going by that
> philosophy, people should start teaching their kids at home because
> all educational institutes, coaching institutes, private tuitions,
> schools even, are also amongst those who sell knowledge, charge a
> fortune to teach a kid basic maths and alphabet that can be learnt at
> home!!!  So. Is sending your kid to school equivalent to *conspiring*
> with hoarders of knowledge? [i think yes, coz if you teach your kid
> upto second grade and want to get him into the third grade in some
> school, you don't have much choice, and i visualize it exactly as
> using a closed software with their indiscernible policies and EULAs,
> but don't we utilize that _service_ from the schools (that are mere
> vendors today)?]

        You seem to be unable to distinguish between paying for a
 service (teaching the kid, setting  the pace of learning, and  giving
 and grading exams) with hoarding knowledge.  Schools do not hoarde
 knowledge; children (well, at least here in the US) can and are home
 schooled.

        Care to come up with a better counter example?

> Is going to a mechanic to get your vehicle repaired equivalent to
> *conspiring* with hoarders of knowledge? He would most probably *not*
> tell you what he was thinking and how he repaired your vehicle unless,
> of course, he's a linuxer! :)) Probably not! That can't be called a
> conspiracy. Because at times you prefer to buy a product or service
> rather than spending time getting under the hood yourself (in general,
> unless you are a hardcore DIY guy)!  Of course, the vendor will have
> to draw the line somewhere when he's earning his bread and butter by
> some sort of knowledge hoarding. And there, he might be wrong! Does
> that mean you'll stop going to mechanics for good because once upon a
> time, some mechanic took you for a ride?  [Note: Just an analogy. No
> offense intended]


        Again, sloppy thinking.  The mechanic hoards no knowledge
 (though some car manufacturers do) -- the mechanic provides services
 for hire.

        Unless you can come up with actual analogies that relate to my
 position, I suggest taking this off line -- these messages have gone
 way off topic.

        manoj
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