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* LUG meet - 4:00 pm 9th March, 2003 @ HBCSE, Mankhurd *
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Thanks for the realistic advice.

 i will definately go thru the links u have given but if possible can u tell
me what basic securities i should apply to my system before going online as
reading the articles and then implementing would be a bit lenghty job.

any way thanks all for helping.

km



----- Original Message -----
From: "Rajesh Deo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Login Problem Please help


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> * LUG meet - 4:00 pm 9th March, 2003 @ Ruparel College, Matunga (W). *
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> On Thu, 6 Mar 2003, Kamal Matta wrote:
>
> > thanks mr nath,
> > but how come this would have been done ? if seems i don't have a choice
but
> > to reinstall and resetup.
>
> Yes, _if_ you system has really been cracked, it is advised to install the
> system from scratch again. So first figure that out, from you description
> of the problem, if syslog is not working, as it should, you may have a
> real problem at hand. So check first why it is not working. If you
> determined that your system has really been cracked, them everything below
> applies. ;)
>
> > is it possible to reinstall the damaged area as
> > reinstlling and resetup will be big problem for me.
>
> Pain it will be, but to your advantage only. Many crackers will employ
> different tricks to re-establish control of a cracked system, which
> includes putting all sorts of trojan software on the system. Searching
> each one requires enough knowledge of the system and even then you can not
> completely guarantee that all security holes have been plugged on your
> system. So install from scratch and *** apply all the security updates
> released by RedHat ***. For this go to http://www.redhat.com/errata.
>
> > i am using this server for NAT/RAS/DNS/DHCP/PROXY/WEB services. i am
using
> > ipchains and setted masq on ppp and eth1 ports to allow to use this box
as
> > gateway to some users as rest use proxy settings.
>
> You might want to boot in single user mode and note down all the
> configuration changes for your servers. The same can then be applied to
> the new and patched installation. See the security FAQs / HOWTOs for each
> of the servers you use, and check if your setting are opening any obvious
> security holes.
>
> For a good introduction to configuring security under Linux see this
> HOWTO, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Security-HOWTO/index.html
>
> > only recently we have started using cable internet and got one ip. could
> > this has helped the hackers ? earlier we were using diapup connectivity.
if
> > possible please help me and tell as what precautions should i take to
keep
> > away the hackers.
>
> A static IP only means that the intruder has more time to play around with
> a cracked machine, it is not that you will be safe on a dialup line, only
> that the chances of successful compromise are slightly less. Hence least
> you can do is to keep you system updated with security patches.
>
> >  i will let u know what u have asked as right now my system is in use by
> > users as rest everything is working except login. and see all details i
have
> > to boot it to linux single.
> >
>
> The sooner the better, you don't want intruders running inside your lan
> systems do you?
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tapeshwar Nath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 4:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ILUG-BOM] Login Problem Please help
> >
>
> [snip]
>
> > > It seems like your machine has been hacked ... and has
> > > been played around with.
> > > Can u check what glibc version you are using. and
> > > whether it has been changed..., whether your mingetty
> > > has been tampered with...Also check where your /bin/sh
> > > points to...
> > >
> > > There are also standard softwares that come thru which
> > > you  can check your system integrity. Try google
> > > search...
>
> Here is good one to find trojons and rootkits,
> http://www.chkrootkit.org/
>
> [snip]
>
> HTH,
> Rajesh
>
> --
> You can't cheat the phone company.
>
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