On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 04:35:53AM +0000, nici bhatt wrote: > > How one can distinguish own self as a geek? newbie? Surprisingly I have > been in this industry from last 11 years and been to almost all Part of the > world but I have never seen people who claim that they are geek I have seen > people who are working as hardcore developer/architecture to the length who > design something which was never thought of but no one has a this kind of > problem than why we should have it. we are nothing less than newbie as far > as technology is concern and lets do not divide people on this basis > otherwise we will block our own growth. <snip>
There's nothing like a geek/newbie. Agreed. I don't think anyone even wanted to mean that, proclaiming themselves as geeks especially. The terms were just being loosely used, without any implied importance (or the lack of it) for the terms used. In this case, some people are 'geeky' in their 'follow-the-norm' behaviour, not the techie stuff or anything. But yes, many of us do want 'noise' (the definition of which is subjective again) to be seperated from 'signal'. I don't understand why there is resistance to forking, when many of us here survive on dial-up connections and do not want to go through all mails at all times. Not just that, when a lot of mails are not of interest to you, you tend to miss out on important/good mails (subjective, again) many a times, and finally, it makes your involvement with the list very much shallow. Personally, I too have a lot of queries, but I'm simply reluctant to post them because I fear having to sift through mails for answers when people reply to original mails (or related, thread mails) with different content, and then discussions going off-track. For all this while, I've become a read-only subscriber (until this thread started). I don't read all mails (maybe, 20% only, based on the subject line), but I don't want to unsubscribe too, as it makes me feel cut-off! The forking could be as simple as 1] Unmoderated 2] Moderated Moderated list follows all the guidelines strictly (moderation need not mean full time involvement of a moderator, but, maybe, strict implementations of rules like banning a user for, say, 15 days, if norms are repeatedly flouted). Unmoderated list is very liberal, and some people can volunteer ( in turns ) to remind those who flout the rules with URLs to guidelines, FAQs et al. Everyone here wants more people to come into the 'Free Software' movement, no doubt. But then, that doesn't mean that when people voice out their opinions, they are being rude or they are looking down upon someone. It's just that some people are looking for some solution to be able to prioritise properly. Anyways, we can opine endlessly without concluding. So, if we can't decide by some fixed time, let us drop this discussion, and allow things to move on as before. I can stay in read-only mode ;-) -- jaju -- http://mm.ilug-bom.org.in/mailman/listinfo/linuxers
