Next LUG meet: 11 Oct 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI Mech Dept
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On Tuesday 30 September 2003 12:01, Nikhil bhaskaran wrote:
> Next LUG meet: 11 Oct 2003 around 4 pm - VJTI Mech Dept
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> hii,
----chop----

> After all a forum like this relies heavily on the manners of the
> its users . Allowing html doesn't mean you are  inviting all sort
> of junk into this forum , junk can be, if required , posted in text
> form too .

You missed the point. Atleast 33% of your html mail will be junk - 
presuming that the rest has information. While most members are well 
behaved, it's clueless newbies who are problematic. Most never bother 
to read the list guidelines and then take offence to reprimands. The 
oldies who were newbies in the bad old days AFAIR never posted html.

>
> Every newbie on this forum and every other person who is into
> marketing like me , I am sure must have supported html mails.

Not at all. Would you drop a customer who does not support html? 
Nobody seems to have dropped me. Most organisations who sell me stuff 
whine a little but then send in plain text. And more important do 
organisations whine if mails are not in html? not at all. So why add 
to the noise with html.

> this argument finds a friend in the dos/windows which the better
> fight  ?? when I started using computers , dos was around , and I
> loved the o/s . I really did,  more so because I had near mastery
> over the software , then came in windows and it changed the way the
> world of common users (not geeks) looked at computers , many people
> cursed  windows so much for the extra space it takes ( similar to
> argument put here by some one about extra space that html mails
> take ) and its crashes . Though dos was great since it hardly 
> crashed and hard so little  requirements but a life without windows
> cannot be imagined.  ,I know this is a Linux forum  but I am still a
> newbie with Linux so bear the dos/windows example.

Ahh welcome to reality. It was availablity of "low cost" hardware that 
changed the way people used computers. Windoze in it's various 
abominations is what killed wide spread AND effecient use. Check out 
the percentage of the earths population that uses computers - quite 
insignificant. Even in advanced economies there is a wide digital 
divide. and there is constant noise about low cost computing. Yet we 
conitinue to grossly abuse and consume precious resources without a 
thought. Wake up man.

---snip---

> again not swaying too much for the original argument , open up
> GROUP  , be open to new things , never resist change , new
> technologies come with their own set of problems , but then we work
> our way around it and that's how technology moves ahead.

Thoughtless and brain dead use of technologies like html in emails is 
what causes problems, and the techies have to spend resources 
correcting the idiocity - in this case Philip (or somone else) will 
spend time writing scripts to clear up other people's mess.

> create barriers for new technology , Break the barriers let html in
> and if users don't use them responsibly , warn them once twice and
> if found incorrigible ban them .

that is ok.

> let both text and html co- exist !!

Heck!! noway

rgds
jtdsouza


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