yes... embedded linux is available... it's new though,
but not for commercial purposes... i work for DARPA on
this and these will be deployed on the battlefield
within a year or so...

unfortunately, it will be long before the common man
gets to know coz military research is classified...


> > >If people are interested we could flag off an
> embedded project on
> > > either ARM which is the most popular and easily
> available
> > > processor or Power PC which has great
> performance, or ye ol X86
> > > (Via C2/3) which has a little of everything +
> familarity. There
> > > are others available too like 683xxxx, Mips, Sh,
> roll-ur-own
> > > Sparc on xilinx / altera. This involves a lot of
> HARD WORK which
> > > our grrreat engineers find wholly unpalatable.
> Why to rack ones
> > > brains when one can cut and past from EFY
> /Elektor sundry 25 yr
> > > old gizmos like wireless network (1 infrared
> reciever, 1 ir led,
> > > 1 555). If u thought it was 802.11 perish the
> thought, most
> > > havent heard of such complex decimals "in the
> syllabus".  And
> > > microprocessors=8085 menta kit (it should be
> labelled dementia
> > > kit).
> >
> > I am not in this space so I may be off here, but I
> think that the
> > issue here will be availability of the components,
> multi layered
> > boards, etc. 
> Procuring samples is fairly straight forward. Multi
> layer boards are the main cost.
> > Designing custom hardware and getting a board
> built 
> > will be very time consuming 
> 3 to 4 weeks. 4layers.
> 
> > unless you are working in some company 
> > or know people providing such service. It may be a
> better idea to
> > try and acquire some SBC and try to port Linux on
> it. 
> download. connect serial cable. run flash script.
> boring and uneducative to say the least. In fact
> most sbc come with a cd and linux preinstalled.
> 
> > Then getting 
> > development tools like Emulators/BDM/JTAG
> debuggers is going to be
> > another issue unless you already have something at
> hand.
> 
> GNU toolkits have all the jtag tools. gdb works on
> em.
> 
> >
> > The point being, that doing embedded software on
> custom hardware
> > involves a lot of supporting material and this is
> the main
> > deterrent to its growth as a hobby.
> >
> > >It is a pity that even with tools like GNU/Linux
> and mediums like
> > > the internet and email our level of education
> and awareness has
> > > become so pathetic. Jeez here i go again like an
> old foggy.
> > >
> > >I am personally interested in robotics. This
> would involve
> > > mechanics, electronics, embeded hardware and
> software and tonnes
> > > of fun. It would also provide self education to
> those involved /
> > > seeking.
> >
> > I am interested in it too. Unfortunately, the
> mechanical and the
> > electronic design is way beyond my skills.
> Software is something
> > that I can do though. I have been thinking of
> implemented something
> > like
> >
>
<http://protowrxs.com/nolen/robotics/LTBot/default.asp>
> or
> > <http://www.evolution.com/er1/what_overview.masn>
> 
> http://oap.sourceforge.net/
> http://www.robo-etf.org/
> http://www.orocos.org/
> 
> > using standard 
> > hardware rather than creating a custom board for
> it. Should be
> > simpler. Controller cards are available or can be
> designed for
> > stepper motor control, etc. Cost of the project
> components is an
> > issue.
> Off the shelf components are atleast 30 times more
> expensive.
> Except for the system controller which can be an
> EPIAM2 mobo available locally, all circuits are
> quite simple. However The EPIAM2 is a power hog
> compared to ARM and would require a hefty power
> pack. or be powered from mains.
> > The cost of time is an investment in knowledge so
> it can be 
> > discounted at the moment.
> >
> > Tell me if you want to do something with this.
> 
> We will require a few more guys.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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