Hi Bhaskar 

A very interesting point put up by you but somewhere between the lines
you are conflicting yourself.

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 02:31:55 -0800 (PST), Bhaskar Ghose
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't understand why everybody here is such a big fan of Mono where
> there is another project DotGNU which also aims at implementing the
> .Net for GNU/Linux on a plethora of other arch plus other OSes too in a
> way being 100% portable. The DotGNU project is managed by the FSF
> itself with RMS in the steering committee.
> Now here a lot of people may ask why there are two projects with the
> same goal ... 

Free Software is all about freedom ... freedom of choice. Based on the
same argument one can spark a debate abt gnome, kde, xfce etc

> the thing is that the DotGNU people earlier have tried to
> merge the two projects together but all they got were verbal volleys
> from our very favourite Miguel de Icaza. The main problem at the moment
> is that the Mono guys (read Novell) doesn't want to have Mono under a
> Free Software license and they also recently changed their library
> licensing from LGPL to MIT's X11 license to make it more unrestrictive.

is there anything wrong about that ? should all software be only GPL /
LGPL ? Is MIT X11 non free software like other commercial license. is
MIT license taking away your code from you without your consent ?

> They also plan to sell Mono to companies under proprietary licenses if
> they want to. Talking about technical issues, DotGNU is faster than
> Mono as Mono is self hsoting (written in C# itself) and Mono also has a
> very weird approach towards implementing the Windows.Forms thingy ...
> they have done it using Wine whereas DotGNU only needs X to run
> Windows.Forms What Mono seems to me at the moment is that it's just a
> C# development environment for GNU/Linux and doesn't intend to be 100%
> compatible with MS .Net ... they are trying to push GTk# instead of
> Windows.Forms ... who'll use GTk# if Windows.Forms works perfectly ? As
> far as DotGNU is concerned, GTk# or any free software libs can be
> easily made to work with DotGNU's Portable .Net.

I have personally not used dotgnu but it ships with sus

> The fact that Gopal V, 
> one of the major contributors to the DotGNU project ported the Portable
> .Net to the Encore Simputer in 3 hours flat on Linux Bangalore/2004
> this time bears testimony of the portability issue.
> While I don't intend to demean Mono in any way, I dislike their
> attitude towards the Freedom aspect in general and the DotGNU project
> in particular. (Rhys Weatherley and others have relicensed DotGNU code
> to Mono under their MIT's X11 license but the reverse has not happened
> till date). The DotGNU project needs our help and it's time we got our
> facts right and decided whom we should support.
> More info on http://www.dotgnu.org
> Regards,
> Bhaskar Ghose
> 
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