On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 18:40 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Krishnakant<[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hacking as breaking into other's systems was bad and is still bad.
> > Breaking into others systems is always bad but it is not hacking but
> > "cracking".  that is wy we all windows lovers will never buy a license
> > and use a "crack".  I never herd of a software hack.
> > I read about serial numbers which are called cracks.
> 
> A software hack is basically a shortcut of sorts in a program. It
> generally involves making some assumptions about how the underlying
> compiler/OS will execute your code or how the underlying library call
> is implemented. The word is generally preceded by the words "elegant",
> "clever" or "ugly", "quick" to signify whether the author thinks the
> solution is exceptionally clever or exceptionally dirty.
> 
> > The point here is that hacking was never bad and will be never bad.  As
> > I said it is a matter of last few years that hacking was *given* a bad
> > name.  Those who did it knew that hacking is a good thing and free
> 
> Read this:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_(computing)
> 
> to get a more balanced view about the word in computing terms. It has
> always been fuzzy since phreakers and black hats also call themselves
> hackers. People who are part of the Free software movement know and
> understand what you mean when you say "happy hacking". Someone new to
> this movement will not, and if he/she does not learn this from
> context/reading he/she should be told what we mean when we say "hack".
> 
> Also, if someone comes around here asking about "hacking sites", it is
> not right to direct them to securityforums or something. I feel the
> right thing would be to explain what hacking means when we mention it
> and how it is different from the network security related stuff.
> 
That's exactly what I attempted to do but alas ...
Any ways, your point is right but there are some so called free software
lovers (well most are "open source " freeks ) who themselves want to go
with popular misconceptions and would even go to the extent of promoting
the same for some or the other bennifit.

As I had explained in one of the earlier emails for the bennifit of new
comers, hacking is the method of breaking down problems into
understandable bits and then finding a clever solution for the problem.

> > software community in particular respects its real meaning.  So by
> > giving a wrong and dirty meaning to that term itself will make these
> > people look bad and unorganised.  So who ever carries the tak is bad.
> > So why should we coin a new term for some thing which already exists.
> 
> > Are you suggesting that we except some wrong propaganda just because it
> > is a popular misconception started by media and big businesses off late?
> 
> It was not big businesses that claimed hacker == evil. It is just that
> phreakers and black hats have always called themselves hackers all
> along. The press simply tagged along. Business never cared until they
> saw that their data was in danger from some miscreants who called
> themselves "hackers".
> 
There might be a further deep down history behind how the term got wrong
meaning, but let's not get into that here.
Any ways I think we can stop this arguement, the new comers have their
own choices, our work is to tell them the truth.


happy hacking.
Krishnakant.


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