On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 3:22 PM, steve <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Mayank,
>
> On 09/09/2009 10:56 AM, Mayank wrote:
> > Hi,
> >        Maybe the question has been asked already and I could find one of
> the
> > [...snip...] I know that's more of a
> > management issue then technical but if there is someway through which I
> can
> > find compatibility of Debian with different servers provided by various
> > vendors (primarily HP, Dell and IBM) then it would be really helpful for
> me
> > in decision making.
> I don't know about Debian in particular, but in general if any one distro.
> supports some hardware, it is quite likely that all of them do. Especially
> since
> hardware support is (mostly) a kernel issue. Here I am assuming that with
> support you mean:
> - The device is recognized by the OS
> - There is application software that allows you to use the recognized
> device
> (device support normally comes into the kernel much before applications
> capable
> of making use of the device appear)
> - The drivers+applications are not proprietary (which implies availability
> and
> support only from the vendor).
>
> > I tried to install Debian 5.0 on a HCL Infinity Global
> > Line 2700 series server and the installation went hassle free, however
> when
> > I did lspci -n and tried to verify the compatibility using the web based
> > utility provided at http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl I was surprised to see
> > several hardware components as not being supported. Can I consider the
> > report displayed by http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl as final and dump my idea
> of
> > installation of Debian
> Well, considering what you wrote in your other mail, i think you are
> barking up
> the wrong tree ...that page has a very clear disclaimer:
> """
>     *  This database uses the PCI map of Debian kernel 2.6.30-1-686 .
>     * The result does NOT guarantee your hardware works perfectly.
>     * This database only verifies the PCI devices at this time. X drivers,
> ISA,
> USB, IEEE1394 or any other devices are out of the focus.
> """"
> So, not only is it kernel version and architecture specific, it tests only
> PCI
> devices (not USB, which is what you were looking at) by looking at the PCI
> Ids.
>
> I would not take that page as a final word, although it might help in
> filtering
> out some of your options.
>
> > or will the lack of support for some of the drivers
> > won't have much effect on functioning of my system. This is the question
> > which is worrying me the most as of now, because I don't want my servers
> to
> > hang up in middle of operations at later stage and it would be really
> nice
> > if someone can help me out on this front.
> Lack of support for components that are non-essential to your server
> operations
> obviously will not have any effect on the functioning of your system. Even
> in
> the worst case scenario, where you might have limited or experimental
> support
> for some non-essential hardware, it is easy to disable loading of those
> specific
> modules to ensure that they do not affect the system negatively.
>
> >
> > Also if possible please let me know how to find which all hardware is
> > supported by a specific kernel. For e.g. I'm using kernel 2.6.22-3-486
> and
> > would like to know which all hardware components does it support. If
> there
> > is someway to find a categorical list of such hardware components then
> that
> > would be lot more helpful.
>
> I think you are going about it the wrong way. The linux kernel these days
> has
> support for the largest number of devices compared to any other OS[1]. So,
> I
> would recommend that you first decide on your hardware and that check to
> see the
> state of the support (a first step would be to check the various HCL
> lists[2]
> and maybe also ask here).
>
> cheers,
> - steve
>
> [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2SED6sewRw
> [2] https://hardware.redhat.com/
>     http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
>     http://en.opensuse.org/Hardware
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Thanks Steve and Krishnakumar for sharing your thoughts.

@Steve

1. What I'd mentioned was a USB Controller and not a USB device and thus I
think it does not fall under USB device category.

2. Thanks for providing link for http://www.ubuntuhcl.org. This is the kind
of list I was looking out for.

3. You made a point that if hardware is supported by a particular kernel
then it doesn't matter which distribution we choose. Does that mean, if a
vendor claims that their server is compatible with say Redhat Enterprise
Linux 4.0, and I find of kernel version for RHEL 4.0 and install a Debian
Linux with same kernel version than everything should work out of the box as
happened in case of RHEL 4.0 ?

Thanks and regards,
Mayank
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