On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Rushabh Mehta <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Replies inline:
>
> >
> > It is very sad to see that the few
> > people who are promoting free software are also tired and depressed.
> >
>
> > Dunno where you jumped to that conclusion.
>
> I have been watching these lists for quite a while. There hardly any
> projects / activity / events other than meetups that have started recently.
>

Recently there was a workshop on Openstreet map at HBCSE
There is a continous on going program on education at Khalapur under the
aegis of HBCSE, using OLPC and 100% FOSS stack.

Earlier a meet at IIT on i dont remember what. Several FOSS mentorships
ongoing at IIT.

I think we are barely scratching the surface as far as promotion of free
> software is concerned.


You will always be scratching the surface. The FOSS ecosystem is massive.


> Even the FSF India website is dated.
>

FSF is focused on Philosophy of free software. Afaik nothing has changed
since introduction of gplv3.


>
> > Clearly new energy is required on


THAT is always welcome. There never is enough.


> > and revenue is also increasing year on
> year, but it is still not enough. If
> > we divert attention in too many things, then we may lose the advantage
> that
> > ERPNext has built up. Also, there is a lot to be done.
> >
>
> > Business development is part of a business. Every state government
> > spends tens crores on education. The smartness is in campaigning for
> > FOSS with ones business goals in mind.
>
> > If you take funding from let's say the FSF, it would be wholly
> unprincipled to project your company
> > / services in such programs, unless you too were contributing
> financially.
>
> We are not taking or wanting to take any funding from FSF. Thankfully we
> are able to sell hosting services to the user community. Our goal was to
> voluntarily go to these organizations and not to promote our software but
> Linux Desktops, Office tools, Mail and Web Servers - the basic stack.
>
>
IF you dont have an interest other than altruism, that is fine. But if you
do have an interest, it helps fund the costs of such work. I cant see the
point you are trying to make, vis-a-vis your internal revenue statement.


>
> > This would be ideally done under the umbrella of Free Software Foundation
> > of India (or if they are very religious/suspicious about us who have to
> > earn our bread and don't live off grants, or there are too many
> > ego-mountains to be climbed, then we could form a new group).
>
>
> > That one is a Pointless rant. Afaik, Nobody on this list is living off
> > someone else's largesse.
>
> Agree - its a rant, but I have mailed a lot of people individually, and
> from the response (or lack) I can clearly sense that we are "outsiders".
>
>
I can guess why from the contents of this mail why it is so. Besides this
is the first set of mails I have seen from you on the list.


> Either ways, its surely something for people to introspect - we need to
> pool resources if we have to fight commercial interests.
>

What commercial interests?. And pool what resources for what purpose?

Hand waving is all fine, but doing things like organising a workshop for
let's say engineering students on the use of CAD software requires one to
propose a specific program and required resources, clearly stating what YOU
are contributing and what additional support you require from the community.


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