[RE: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Remove some e500/MPC85xx evaluation platforms] On 
14/04/2023 (Fri 23:29) Leo Li wrote:

> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Ellerman <m...@ellerman.id.au>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2023 9:14 PM
> > To: Leo Li <leoyang...@nxp.com>; Paul Gortmaker
> > <paul.gortma...@windriver.com>
> > Cc: Scott Wood <o...@buserror.net>; Paul Mackerras <pau...@samba.org>;
> > Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.man...@nxp.com>; linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org;
> > Pali Roh??r <p...@kernel.org>
> > Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] Remove some e500/MPC85xx evaluation
> > platforms
> > 
> > Li Yang <leoyang...@nxp.com> writes:
> > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2023 at 1:52???PM Paul Gortmaker
> > > <paul.gortma...@windriver.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> [This RFC is proposed for v6.4 and hence is based off linux-next.]
> > >>
> > >> In a similar theme to the e300/MPC83xx evaluation platform
> > >> removal[1], this targets removal of some 13 --> 21 year old
> > >> e500/MPC85xx evaluation boards that were produced in limited numbers
> > >> and primarily made available to hardware/software developers to shape
> > their own boards and BSPs.
> > >
> > > These e500 platforms are similar to the e300 platforms that they are
> > > still being shipped, the targeting market probably caused it to have a
> > > longer life cycle.
> > >
> > ...
> > >
> > > The difference here from the e300 platforms is that MPC8540ADS,
> > > MPC8560ADS, MPC8548CDS, MPC8568-MDS are the only reference
> > platforms
> > > supplied by us for these SoCs.  We don't have a separation of
> > > evaluation platforms vs product-like platforms like we did later.
> > > That probably means even if they don't look like "hobbyist" friendly
> > > they are more likely to be still in use.
> > 
> > OK. But what is the chance anyone is booting upstream kernels on them?
> 
> We do still have these parts shipped, which means that there are definitely 
> active users of these silicons.  But it is really hard to say how many of 
> they are running latest upstream kernel.  IMO, if the nature of the 
> application is critical it is likely they will need to update the kernel to 
> get all the security fixes.  And the reference board will be helpful as a 
> starting point when they update the kernel.

I think the right thing to do here with this series is to remove the
super ancient 20+ year old MPC8540ADS and MPC8560ADS; and leave the
slightly more modern ones for another day in the future.

I don't think anyone can realistically argue against that?

Paul.
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> > 
> > I assume no one at NXP is testing upstream on those boards?
> 
> To be frank they are not included in the routine tests carried out by the 
> development team now which is not ideal to me.  But I think the support team 
> are probably willing to help on issues with latest kernel when needed.
> 
> Regards,
> Leo

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