From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2026 
7:58 AM
> 
> Michael Kelley <[email protected]> writes:
> 
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 5:55 PM
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jun 02, 2026 at 02:24:40PM +0000, Michael Kelley wrote:
> >>
> >> > Except that in a normal VM, the "unencrypted" pool attribute does *not*
> >> > describe the state of the memory itself.  In a normal VM, the memory is
> >> > unencrypted, but the "unencrypted" pool attribute is false. That
> >> > contradiction is the essence of my concern.
> >>
> >> I would argue no..
> >>
> >> When CC is enabled the default state of memory in a Linux environment
> >> is "encrypted". You have to take a special action to "decrypt" it.
> >>
> >> Thus the default state of memory in a non-CC environment is also
> >> paradoxically "encrypted" too.
> >
> > The need to have such an unnatural premise is usually an indication
> > of a conceptual problem with the overall model, or perhaps just a
> > terminology problem.
> >
> > Here's a proposal. The new DMA attribute is DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED.
> > Name the pool attribute "cc_shared" instead of "unencrypted". Having
> > "cc_shared" set to false in a normal VM doesn't lead to the non-sensical
> > situation of claiming that a normal VM is encrypted. The boolean
> > "unencrypted" parameter that has been added to various calls also
> > becomes "cc_shared".  If "CC_SHARED" is a suitable name for the DMA
> > attribute, it ought to be suitable as the pool attribute. And everything
> > matches as well.
> >
> 
> That is better. It would also simplify:
> 
>       if (mem->unencrypted != !!(attrs & DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED))
>               return NULL;
> 
> to
>       if (mem->cc_shared != !!(attrs & DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED))
>               return NULL;
> 
> 
> I already sent a v6 in the hope of getting this merged for the next
> merge window. Should I send a v7, or would you prefer that I do the
> rename on top of v6?
> 

I would advocate for a v7 with the rename, vs. a separate follow-on
patch to do the rename, just to reduce churn. But I don't know what
the tradeoffs are in trying to hit the next merge window. If a follow-on
patch is more practical from a timing standpoint, I won't object.

Michael


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