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From: Richard Cochran [mailto:richardcoch...@gmail.com] 
Sent: 27 April 2021 21:47
To: Ramana Reddy
Cc: Miroslav Lichvar; linuxptp-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Amar Subramanyam
Subject: Re: [Linuxptp-devel] [PATCH] To support Ordinary 
Clock-Subordinate/Slave just a bunch of devices(jbod) feature.

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On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 03:59:05PM +0000, Ramana Reddy wrote:

> <Ramana> As I said, running independent clients defeats the purpose of BMC 
> algorithm and breaks the ITU-T G.8275.2
> Spec compliance. The BMC algorithm should be run locally on all ports of 
> every ordinary and boundary clock in a domain. Since it
> runs continuously, it continually readapts to changes in the network or the 
> clocks. Pls check section 9.3 in IEEE1588-2008
> Spec for details on BMC algorithm. Also refer to Section 6.7 of A-BMCA 
> requirements of ITU-T G.8275.2 spec.

Did you even read ITU-T G.8275.2 Section 6.7 ?

It makes no mention of slaveOnly, but rather masterOnly and
localPriority.
Ramana> Yes I did and I am not sure if you had gone through it in detail. Read 
through the sections  6.7.1 through 6.7.9 where 
It talks about the Priority2, clockClass, clockQuality, state decision 
algorithm, master data set comparison which are all used to
Select the Master from Slave perspective.

You have not clearly identified a problem with linuxptp WRT G.8275.2.
If there is a problem, please state it.
Ramana> Although we tried mentioning earlier at high level, seems like you 
still haven't understood. Refer the attached document listing
 the existing issues with jbod_boundary_clock and Client only configuration. 
See if it helps. We can do a quick 30 mins call if required if you
still have questions on the issues identified with G.8275.1/G.8275.2 profile 
BMCA selection. 

> > <Ramana> I believe Ordinary Clock can have multiple ports

No, your belief is incorrect.  The number of ports differentiates OC
from BC.  In fact, that is the only difference.

> <Ramana> Pls refer my earlier reply for why we need to run single ptp4l 
> instance with multiple ports in OC mode.

You _seem_ to be proposing a new and different state machine, not
specified by 1588 or G.8275.2.  If you want to do that, fine, but
please develop some kind of design document that explains both the
motivation and the theory of operation.

Then, you can provide the implementation in the modular way that does
not deface the linuxptp architecture.

Hint:
        p->state_machine = clock_slave_only(clock) ? ptp_slave_fsm : ptp_fsm;
Ramana> Our intention is not to propose anything outside G.8275.1/G.8275.2/IEEE 
1588-2008 spec but try to align 
with what is mentioned in the spec and fix the issues breaking the spec . 
Probably I might need a separate discussion on
 this if we agree on existing issues and then take care of comments in the 
patch as few of them valid comments like 
not to add any special handling in PTP stack.

Thanks,
Richard

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