On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Paul Saenz <[email protected]> wrote: >> How can you say that? What control do they have? The only way they >> could have any control over your Internet traffic is if you use them >> for searching and then click on the results. The results mind you are >> not altered by them only ranked in an order based on the criteria you >> specified in your search. > > I personally know people who's websites were banned from Google searches for > no apparent reason. And they were never allowed to speak with anyone at > Google to present their case. I mean completely banned. No matter how a > search was done, one could not bring up the website on google. Even putting > their URL in the search bar would not bring up their website. Furthermore, I > have heard of several cases second hand. IMO, that is too much control over > internet traffic. > >> The personal data is another issue. Granted they have it, but what >> have they ever done that was bad? They use the personal data to >> provide services. The fact that they have it can't in itself make then >> some evil corporation plotting to take over the world. > > I didn't say that Google was some evil corporation plotting to take over the > world. I didn't imply it either. To clarify what I think, I would say that > I'm not sure that I am entirely comfortable with the fact that they are > collecting my personal data, if I use Google. Nevertheless, I always, at > least, attempt to do it incognito. > > My exact words were that my first reaction to Google is usually negative. I > feel I must stress the word USUALLY!!! Usually means: not always. It leaves > room for the fact that from time to time, I have a positive thought about > Google. I must also stress the word FIRST reaction. That leave the > possibility that at a second thought, I might also have a positive attitude > about Google. As a matter of fact I started the paragraph saying that I > actually had a positive reaction to Google Chrome, and I was impressed. That > means that they have succeeded in boosting my confidence in their company, > maybe a littler higher than in the past, which wasn't so extremely bad in > the first place. I neither implied that they were some big evil corporation, > nor did I think it. May I suggest that in the future, you read what I write > twice, or maybe even three times. Take a deep breath between each reading, > and try to actually understand what I am saying. Keep in mind that no matter > how a person says something, it can be misconstrued. I am sure that you have > personally experience that for yourself, as everyone has. Unless people have
It is very easy for the written word to be misconstrued. However when you make statements like "they have too much control over internet traffic" I don't think there is much to misconstrue. Thats a really bold statement/opinion and I disagree with it. > friendly intentions from the beginning, any discussion can easily descend > into what you guys would call a flame war. With all due respect, those are > some of the simple principals behind what is know as social graces. Now, if > you will indulge me for just a moment, I hope that in the future, I can > participate in a few discussion, and express my opinions from time to time. > Otherwise, if you have something personally against me, please let me know, > because I hate to be in a place where I am unwelcome, and I will humbly > desist from participating in the discussions, and/or any socal LUG meetings. > >> They offer a free ,capable email service and they don't force ads on >> the recipients unlike your hotmail account. >> >> Why? Why would anyone change anything? >> > Maybe so they could add some pluigins or something. What? Do you think i't's are you saying Firefox doesn't have enough plugins? > going to stay the same forever? > C'mon Chris, the browser has to change. There is nothing in the realm of > computer technology that will stay the same. Thats not change, if Mozilla moved over to Google/webkit that would be assimilation. Not change. Remember when Coke made 'new' Coke that tasted just like pepsi. That worked out well didn't it? I don't see any logic in the idea of Mozilla switching over. The fact that Firefox is such a success is that it came from the idea of change. It was created to be different then what was already available. Having different browsers is like having different wrenches. The user just has to select which ever one fits his/her needs. Its nothing more then that. > Everything MUST change. > > ________________________________ > See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of > your life. See Now > _______________________________________________ > LinuxUsers mailing list > [email protected] > http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers > >
