"Hey Jeff, stop promoting your product. Im getting kind of sick of
hearing about it."

I think it is safe to say that I am (one of) the first ones to
strangle justifications for proprietary software on the list.  It was
my impression that Jeff was responding to the crack:

"<sarcasm> OMG proprietary!!! the horror, the unspeakable horror! </sarcasm>"

rather then promoting anything.  It also seems that Jeff is discussing
what he uses rather then promoting a product.  It would be
questionable if Jeff neglected to mention his company authored the
discussed solution.  It could be fun if people started  "promoting"
proprietary software here of all places.

"If you guys are going to promote software, promote free / oss."

Whatever.  People on this list have always discussed the tools they
use/try/test and the tools that work, with respect to Linux and/or
System administration.  I am not interested in proprietary software at
all, however, I think there is a time and place in list discussions
for the topic of proprietary software to come up.  Sometimes there
isn't a GPL solution out there and the proprietary options are all
that work, and they work well.

Chris...

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Trevor Benedict <mre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Jeff, stop promoting your product. Im getting kind of sick of hearing
> about it.
>
> If you guys are going to promote software, promote free / oss.
> If you are going to promote non free software, we need links to the
> software, so we can make our own decisions about it.
> And give a good reason why we should look at it.
>
> As we all know, once you add a application that starts messing with the way
> the distribution does things, and you want to change things on the system
> that app has control over, things go bad.
>
> Pleask, CPanel, DirectAdmin.
> They all mess with the normal operation of the distro. They do not use the
> distro's packages. And when you want to do something using the distor's
> packages, things break. Or you want to do some custom stuff that is within
> the bounds of normal distro parms, you will have issues.
> Now if these applications made their own distro's that would be fine, but
> until they do, I would say far away from them.
> Webmin isnt to bad, a bit wonky, but it doesn't mess up your distro.
>
> -- Trevor Benedict
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