Haha :)

> Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:34:03 -0800
> From: Dino K <socalli...@cloudcomp.info>
> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Every Android device you buy... helps
>        Microsoft make money on Patents
> To: SoCal LUG Users List <linuxusers@socallinux.org>
>
> Where do you see it not being free?  I think you have many misconceptions,
> sometimes linux bigotry works both ways.
>
> 1 - the OS is free
>

Well, free.... but is it free as in FREEDOM???!?!?!


> 2 - the only licensed portions are the market and google specific apps
> (gtalk, gmail) which Google never intended to be free
>

Do you mean the PROPRIETARY PARTS like Gmail, Talk, Maps, Market, YouTube,
etc etc? Oh, God forbid such filth touching. Might as well take them out. I
am sure that without those mentioned "minor" components people (normal -
not hobbyist or zealots) would still buy an Android Phone.


> 3 - all the source code has been released
>
>
Except for the PROPRIETARY parts, of course. But please, do not try to do
something useful like creating your own distribution for free for others.
You may end up with a cease and desist letter from Google.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/25/google_android_take_down_demand/



> So how is it not free?
>

Because it is not free as in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoyUT5p6MYQ


>
> So let me ask you, ARE YOU SERIOUS? No? Shut your mouth...
>

Oh, OK. So semi-serious, I will semi-shut my mouth :)


>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Holmquist <marktrac...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > > you guys should just shut your mouths
> >
> > Dino, are you serious? We use GNU/Linux because it's free, and we
> > don't use Android because it isn't free. Do you also want people who
> > extoll about Microsoft's products not being free to shut their mouths?
> > No, of course not, because you've at least understood that they are
> > doing the wrong thing. Freedom is a lot more important than fanboyism,
> > as you'll soon learn after graduating from junior high and learning
> > more about free software.
> >
> > --
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> > marktrac...@gmail.com
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> Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 01:52:28 -0600
> From: Chris Penn <cantorm...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [LinuxUsers] Every Android device you buy... helps
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> "So let me ask you, ARE YOU SERIOUS? No? Shut your mouth..."
>
> lol
>
> "Where do you see it not being free?"
>
> When I think free I think of the GPL.  Everything else is free-ish...
>
> Chris...
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Dino K <socalli...@cloudcomp.info> wrote:
> > Where do you see it not being free?? I think you have many
> misconceptions,
> > sometimes linux bigotry works both ways.
> >
>
> > 1 - the OS is free
> > 2 - the only licensed portions are the market and google specific apps
> > (gtalk, gmail) which Google never intended to be free
> > 3 - all the source code has been released
> >
> > So how is it not free?
> >
> > So let me ask you, ARE YOU SERIOUS? No? Shut your mouth...
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Mark Holmquist <marktrac...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> > you guys should just shut your mouths
> >>
> >> Dino, are you serious? We use GNU/Linux because it's free, and we
> >> don't use Android because it isn't free. Do you also want people who
> >> extoll about Microsoft's products not being free to shut their mouths?
> >> No, of course not, because you've at least understood that they are
> >> doing the wrong thing. Freedom is a lot more important than fanboyism,
> >> as you'll soon learn after graduating from junior high and learning
> >> more about free software.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mark Holmquist
> >> marktrac...@gmail.com
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> LinuxUsers mailing list
> >> LinuxUsers@socallinux.org
> >> http://socallinux.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linuxusers
> >
> >
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>
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> be continually assaulted by the fruits of Mankind's stupidity."
> ?-Roger Penrose
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