[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm reading Yahoo news, and it mentions a new form of attack called
> "clickjacking", where people can be duped into giving information to
> seemingly innocent sites.  This sounds more like a regular con to me.
> But it mentions that a vulnerability in Adobe Flash can enable a
> cracker to access your microphone and webcam and observe you.
> Supposedly, this flaw is exploitable through all web browsers,
> including Firefox and Google Chrome.
> 
> Keep in mind, I readily admit to not being the most knowledgeable guy
> about computers, so I figured I'd ask people who knew their stuff.
> Guess what?  That's you.
> 
> I'm guessing, since it is so widespread across browsers, that this
> isn't a web exploit per se, but a function of the underlying OS.

Well, in the instance of a microphone or webcam exploit, that's purely 
through Adobe Flash.  I've never seen Fl access my mic or webcam without 
first prompting me.

As for getting more information from the browser, that sounds like a DOM 
tree traversal attack, where the site uses JavaScript to try and find 
DOM trees that haven't been collected yet.

> Although it doesn't mention that any and all OS's are vulnerable, I
> wonder if Linux users have anything to worry about.  The article
> mentions this is a scripting problem.  So just how vulnerable are
> Linux boxes?  Mine doesn't have a microphone (never needed one) or a
> webcam (never liked them), but my laptops do have microphones, and one
> has a webcam (it's unconfigured, so I figure that's nothing to worry
> about at the moment).  Is this simply a case of M$ getting nailed
> again, or do I have something to worry about here?

Microsoft's browsers are closed-source, so there's really no way in heck 
to know how many potential flaws there are until the patches come out.

Firefox and its code is fairly rigorously reviewed, and is far safer. 
Chrome uses the WebKit API and a  custom javascript engine.  WebKit is 
really safe, but their javascript engine is new and probably less secure 
(more prone to those annoying gotcha bugs that leave security holes).

Chrome is itself open-source, so that should become less of an issue 
over time.

Most of the time - even on Windows - all of these problems are a result 
of the user being a pinhead and doing things that aren't really all that 
safe.  Don't go to sites that don't look particularly trusty.  You 
wouldn't really go walking through south-side San Francisco with a 
million bucks and your social security card, would you?  Why should you 
browse the south side of the 'net with your passwords and information in 
your browser's cache?

So if you're a 'net savvy user like a lot of people are street savvy, 
you should do fine.  The problems arise when people expect these magical 
computers to protect them (they won't).  Do you trust your government*? 
  I should hope not!  Do you trust your computer?  I should hope not!

* I trust my government about as far as I can throw it.  I vote for 
change, but democracy is founded on the principal of government 
accountable to the people - /not/ the other way around.



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