What do you mean, "pull certain backup when needed" - this is a subject
for a discussion about backups (which has happened before) and is
completely separate from RAID - they solve two different problems.
Backing up != redundancy.

You can still clone your whole hard drive to an external drive, and
that's fine, but what does it honestly achieve?  RAID will continue to
operate when one drive crashes - that's right, continue. No shutdown,
swap drive, reboot, wait.  It continues. With a mobo failure, just plug
both drives in a new computer, and boot. If your drives are
hot-swappable, after a drive failure you replace the faulty drive, and
run a raid sync, which is no different from copying to a new drive in
the 'hot drive backup' solution presented. If you want to argue that you
can just get up and running with the hot backup method, well - you can
with RAID, too, as a "degraded" boot -- you just lose redundancy (as
with the hot-backup).

Basically, there is *no* drawback to the RAID solution, but there is the
benefit of continued operation if one of the two drives fails (not
possible with the 'hot-backup' solution). Your backups should be a
separate process from redundancy, anyway.

On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 09:08:33AM -0800, cmcanulty wrote:
> Could you post the code to  drive and
> pull just certain backup when needed.
> Also that I can move the drive in any server(regardless of disk
> controller type) and have instant duplicate running in minutes.Thank
> you
> 
> On Jan 10, 12:38 pm, Daniel Eggleston <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Forget the controller - use software raid.  No hardware costs, works just as
> > well (there's a performance hit at the extreme high end, but even that can
> > be taken out with raid 10 if you need to).  Keeping old files that have been
> > deleted may cause issue (say you deleted a program, because it happens to
> > have a security repercussion, and you're waiting on a patch). There is no
> > substitute for taking periodic backups, which will keep old versions of all
> > files in the case of accidental change/deletion in a much more reliable
> > manner.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 11:34 AM, u4david <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > agree,
> > > what I like about rsync is that I can go in the mirrored drive and
> > > pull just certain backup when needed.
> > > Also that I can move the drive in any server(regardless of disk
> > > controller type) and have instant duplicate running in minutes.
> >
> > > my cron job mounts the dive first then mirrors the data,then unmount the
> > > drive.
> > > Also rsync further with out the --delete option to keeps old files
> > > that may have been deleted on master drive.
> >
> > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:33 PM, Jeremiah Bess <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Not true. RAID 1 is instantaneous mirroring. rsync runs only when you 
> > > > set
> > > it
> > > > to. RAID 1 is really easy to set up and reliable.
> >
> > > > Jeremiah E. Bess
> > > > Network Ninja, Penguin Geek, Father of four
> >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 20:10, u4david <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > >> I would set up firts harddrive:
> >
> > > >> and then second hard drive set up us a mirror of the first drive .
> > > >> use rsync,cronjob.
> >
> > > >> This way no need for raid.
> > > >> But have backups at your finger tips.
> > > >> and if the first disc fails just reconfigure the mirror as "master"
> > > >> and adjust boot grub options and caboom back to original(last backup
> > > >> version of mirrored rsynced copy)
> >
> > > >> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Kari Matthews <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > Hello,
> > > >> > I have a customer who wants a new server.  I convinced him to go with
> > > >> > Linux
> > > >> > instead of Windows.  He then asked at the end that I put 2-1TB drives
> > > in
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > server.  I assume the second is for storage b/c they deal with pretty
> > > >> > large
> > > >> > files.
> > > >> > In your opinion, what should I do with the second drive?  Should I 
> > > >> > put
> > > >> > Linux
> > > >> > on both drives?  I was going to do a data partition on the first 
> > > >> > drive
> > > >> > ...
> > > >> > if I did that for both, that would be 4 partitions.  What is the best
> > > >> > way to
> > > >> > handle this?
> > > >> > I know this is a rather silly question, but I am unsure how to best
> > > >> > utilize
> > > >> > the space on the 2nd drive.  It's tempting to put it in an external
> > > >> > casing
> > > >> > and just use it as a backup drive.  I don't know.
> > > >> > Opinions welcome, since you're all brilliant.  TIA.
> > > >> > ~kari
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