On Wed, 2012-02-08 at 10:42 -0600, Chris Bagwell wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Peter Hutterer <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 06:54:23PM +0000, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> >> Heya,
> >>
> >> Instead of hitting just Peter with this sort of question[1], I'm
> >> guessing that there are quite a few people on the list that could answer
> >> my questions (or point me to the relevant Wiki pages).
> >>
> >> For the fun that's about to be had with the Intuos4 LEDs, a couple of
> >> questions:
> >> - is there/will there be a way to avoid getting/updating/setting all the
> >> LEDs when changing one? What format do the LEDs graphics needs to be in?
> >
> > I think this was mentioned in another thread but "LEDs" are the little ones
> > next to the ring and OLEDs are the ones that can display pretty pictures.
> > I don't really have a good idea on the OLED approach yet. From a driver's
> > POV the best approach may be to set a property to a Pixmap, with the driver
> > the converting to the actual format the kernel wants.
> > There are plenty of tools that can convert from $FILEFORMAT to pixmap, and
> > IIRC we had a xsetwacom patch for this at some point.
> >
> >> - can wacom provide a library of pixmaps for us to use for the LEDs, so
> >> that they look like they already do on Windows or MacOS X, or would we
> >> have the time consuming task of re-doing them? If the problem is simply
> >> that the data isn't easily available, we can certainly try and nab it
> >> from the other drivers.
> >> - will we need to handle rotation ourselves, and rotate the LED drawings
> >> ourselves?
> >
> > yes, whatever triggers the rotation should rotate the OLEDs.
> >
> >> - what metadata does one need to associate a button with an LED
> >> placement?
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean here, can you elaborate?
> >
> 
> If/when you guys get to the touch ring LED's, I'd like to jump in.
> Maybe the above metadata question is related to following.
> 
> I'm a little interested in the click button in the center of it and
> how it affects an LED (not OLED).  The LED's represent a "mode" of
> ring.  What the exact "mode" means I think is an application specific
> issue but toggling between modes and how it changes LED's is probably
> something like g-s-d's job.
> 
> The good news is that the sysfs interface for this LED is also "mode"
> based.  You can only light 1 LED at a time.
> 
> What I'd like you guys to consider is "simple tablets" that do not
> have touch rings nor the related mode LEDs.  It would be nice if you
> could assign any random button on tablet to be a more generic "mode"
> feature.  The mode feature is something like increasing a # between
> 0-2 each time button is pressed with a roll over at max value.
> 
> By default on Intuos and Cintiq, libwacom would say that ring button
> is for mode feature but for a Bamboo it would say no button is.
> Hopefully, we have a GUI that allows user to pick one of Bamboo's 4
> buttons for mode feature though.
> 
> In Intous/Cintiq case, the mode would also control a sysfs LED.  For
> Bamboo, there is no LED nor sysfs entry but the current mode could be
> monitored via DBUS/gsettings/X property/etc and we could make an
> applet to show virtual LED like those capslock LED applets when that
> is missing.
> 
> The "mode" LED is meant to track how touch ring's scroll events are
> treated (zoom, scroll, brush size, etc) but I don't see why we
> couldn't use it for any random mode concept such as airbrush vs. pen
> vs. eraser modes.  Basically, a way of increasing the # of
> ExpressKey's your tablet has.

I have no plans on exposing modes for devices that don't have the LEDs
to show which mode is selected. The code is still there for you to
modify if you want though. Modifying your tablet's definition might be
sufficient to achieve that in the future.


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