On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 01:52:54PM +0100, Markus Kuhn wrote:
> On 21/09/16 12:05, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> > these days a protocol screen like you use it is the exception, not the rule.
> > 
> > the problem with ScreenNo isn't the ambiguity, it's that it just doesn't
> > really apply when a screen isn't already plugged in on boot. in many cases,
> > the screen order isn't clear until after login, e.g. when you use xrandr to
> > arrange the displays.
> 
> The xrandr model, namely all displays just showing parts of a single
> virtual screen, can cause problems in situations were one screen
> really serves a completely different purpose from the other screen,
> i.e. were you really don't want windows to go across screens,
> or where a screen is linked to an input device that is meant to
> provides absolute coordinates for one screen only.
> 
> When I try to use xinput_calibrator to calibrate a touchpanel
> against its built-in screen, under xrandr it really gets confused
> about the size of the physical screen versus the size of
> xrandr's virtual screen. xinput_calibrator opens its window
> across both my desktop and my Cintiq 13HD, and there is no
> option to tell it to cover just the latter. Even if there were,
> there would still be a risk that stylus coordinates at the edge of the
> tablet could leak into the other screen.
> 
> Protocol screens used to be a very convenient way to keep
> screens separate, rather than confuse applications by screens
> sharing the same coordinate system.
> 
> If integer protocol screen numbers really are no longer viable, is
> there no other conceivable way to unambiguously bind the
> coordinate system of an "absolute" input device to the coordinate
> system of just one physical output of a graphics card? For example
> by providing a new option to specify under Section "InputDevice" the
> identifier of a corresponding Section "Screen" in xorg.conf
> (just like Option "ScreenNo" "0" did, just not using integers
> that might depend on hot-plug order, but something that actually
> refers to a named device driver instance, Port-ID, Bus-ID, whatever).

the input transformation matrix that's used for calibration (and by the
varous map-to-screen options) is just a matrix that represents the whole
screen estate, normalised to [0, 1.0). So you can use it to map to any area
on the screen, regardless of whether it's a protocol screen, a normal
screen, or just an area. 

Cheers,
   Peter


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