For me, since it's become so specific, perhaps off list.

Marshall H.

On Thursday, October 11, 2001, at 07:49  PM, James MacPhail wrote:

>
> Q: Would others prefer this to be off-list, or should it remain on-list?
>
> Hi Vince,
>
>> The board I have is a XL board I believe because the board # is 620-142
>> which according to sun remarketing manual says its an XL board.  But 
>> that
>> manual says it will work in my Lisa 2/10.  There is no battery pack on 
>> this
>> board.  I'm gonna check the other suggestion now on the board to try 
>> and get
>> it to fire up.
>
> I was under the impression that you had a Lisa 2, not a Lisa 2/10, but 
> it
> may not matter...
>
> The Lisa 2 has an external parallel port connector (near the serial 
> ports
> on the back), the Lisa 2/10 does not. The Lisa 2/10 has an interrupt
> button, the Lisa 2 does not. Others may have different definitions of
> course.
>
> Various re-configurations and name changes confuse the issue of what is
> each kind of Lisa, however the prescence or abscence of a parallel port 
> on
> the back panel of the motherboard is a reliable indicator.
>
> The Lisa 2 usually has the 1.2 Amp power supply, the 2/10 usually has 
> the
> 1.8 Amp power supply, although both work in both machines, the extra 
> power
> requirements of the 2/10 pretty much require the stronger power supply.
> (These nameplate ratings are for the 120 volt version, the 240 volt
> versions have different nameplate current ratings).
>
> As for I/O boards, I believe they are NOT completely interchangable,
> perhaps someone else can comment on this. If you have a back panel 
> parallel
> port, your I/O board should be 620-0117 (with the battery & switch, 
> battery
> perhaps removed). If you do not have a back panel parallel port, your 
> I/O
> board should be 620-142 (no battery).
>
>> Just to verify, U7F a 7417.  No jumper wire where you where 
>> describing, but
>> I may have a different board than what you thought.  Jumping pin 12 to 
>> 14
>> causing pin 12 to go high doesnt fire it up.
>
> U7F is a 7417 on both I/O boards. The flying wire is only present on 
> 620-0117.
>
> It is possible I have the sense of the pin 12 voltage backwards. If it 
> is
> 5V when the Lisa is off, try pulling it to ground to see if the power
> supply starts up.
>
>> Ok, I checked U7F pin 12 and it does go to pin 120 on the edge 
>> connector.
>
> You could check that that pin goes through the motherboard and chassis 
> to
> the power supply's edge connector, sorry I don't know what pin off-hand.
>
>> Is there any way to check votages out of the power supply connector to
>> verify it is the power supply?
>
> Since you have already confirmed the 5V standby power is working, there 
> is
> no simple test. This is a problem with switching power supplies. 
> Swapping
> power supplies would be the easiest thing, but not everyone has a garage
> full of Lisas (neither do I).
>
> HTH,
>
> James
>
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