Copying the WG list as well on the results of the IESG review of 
draft-ietf-lisp:

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We discussed this draft on our IESG call tonight. The draft (as well as other 
Lisp drafts) has been very carefully reviewed by everyone on the IESG, and I 
think the feedback is useful. Of course there are a few misunderstandings here 
and there as well. There are a number of discusses (see 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp/ballot/), but I think I we see 
a reasonable way forward.

Here's what I would proposal that we do:

*1) Detailed technical comments:*
- Adrian Farrell's second issue in his Discuss and everything after that
- Sean Turner's Discuss
- Stephen Farrell's Discuss
- Stewart Bryant's Discuss, second item
- Ron Bonica's Discuss, items 5 and 7-8

These seem like valid technical questions that deserve at least an answer and 
probably in most cases a small document change. Please work on suggested edits 
for these.

*2) Traffic cases*
- Stewart Bryant's Discuss, first item

Stewart has a good question about non-connection oriented traffic, such as UDP 
flows or even unidirectional traffic. Unless there is an obvious answer (I 
think not), you should add this as a case to test in Section 15. Note that 
Stewart is not asking you to change the protocol in anyway.

*3) Applicability statements, defining the experiment, scope of the proposal*
- Ron Bonica's Discuss, parts 1-4, 6, and 9
- Pete Resnick's Comment
- Adrian Farrell's Discuss, first part

These should be addressed by further work on Section and making it clearer what 
are the main issues where further testing is needed. Obviously Section 15 is 
already a good start on that, but my AD colleagues though that it needed some 
additions. Here's what I think we talked about during the call:

- Section 15 should also include positive aspects to test for (Pete)
- Section 15 should be clearer about the ability to connect the legacy and Lisp Internet. 
For instance, add this text to the end of the fourth bullet in Section 15: "Without 
an interworking solution, the Lisp and legacy Internet cannot communicate." (Ron)
- Section 15 should say something about finding out the actual real-world 
effect on the need to insert more entries to the global routing table, what the 
impact is TCP sessions by the special treatment of first packets towards a 
network, the impact of making control plane dependent on data plane (Ron)
- Section 15 should move to a place where it is more visible to readers of the 
document, right after introduction (Stewart, Adrian)

*4) EID allocation*
- Ralph Droms' Discuss

Ralph and few other ADs have asked about EID allocation procedures, and think 
that some of the text in the drafts are not giving the full picture. The 
suggestion that we talked about in the call was to take the EID allocation 
discussion out from draft-ietf-lisp-alt:

   "EID-prefixes are expected to be allocated to a LISP site by Internet 
Registries"

and discuss it only in draft-ietf-lisp. Obviously, the document to allocate 
some EID space is not yet on the publication queue. However, the base should 
say something about this, at least that procedures for allocating EID space for 
the purposes of running the early test deployments are under development. 
Finally, I think when that document comes to us, it should say that IANA 
manages the allocations, I think it is too early for the IETF to ask Internet 
Registries to hand out EID space. IANA can handle a reasonable number of 
requests, just like they do for various other number spaces. Also, we've 
already exchanged some e-mails about saying something about the IPv4 EID space, 
as it is not readily available for allocation.

*5) Waiting on IANA*
- My Discuss

IANA has not yet done a review. I need to wait a couple of days for that.

Thoughts? Comments? Did I miss anything?

Jari

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