I second the motion. We should take on this relatively minor work after the 
experimental RFCs are published.

Dino

On Jan 12, 2012, at 2:58 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a DISCUSS on the base document [1] and -ms [2]
> (same thing really) noting that Map-Register messages,
> while authenticated, can be replayed which is not great,
> especially since there doesn't seem to be any easy way
> to add replay protection right now without changing
> stuff I guess you don't want to change.
> 
> The authors have added a new security consideration to -ms
> noting this and the base document now notes that the nonce
> field in that message, while specified to be zero, may be
> used for some form of replay protection in future.
> 
> Since LISP is experimental I'm ok to clear my DISCUSS
> on that basis, *if* the WG will actually address the problem
> in the not-too-distant future. (I'll leave the DISCUSS
> there for now so the link at [1] works for a bit:-)
> 
> Since you're now in the process of re-chartering it seems
> like adding that as a bit of work with a milestone would
> be the easiest thing to do, if the WG are happy to take on
> that work.
> 
> I'd suggest adding a bit of text saying the WG will also:
> 
> "examine the implications of Map-Register replays and
> develop a solution."
> 
> That could go maybe as the 2nd item in the list that
> currently says:
> 
>  "Specifically, the group will work on:
> 
>   - LISP security threats and solutions
>   - MIBs
>   - deployment models
>   - allocation of EID space
>   - alternate mapping system designs."
> 
> And I think that really needs a milestone, to close
> the loop, such as:
> 
> "MMM YYYY   Forward a solution to Map-Register replays to IESG"
> 
> Note that it is possible in principle that the "solution"
> might be "its not a problem and here's why" but I don't
> think that's the case. When the issue is tackled it might
> or might not have implications for e.g. Map-Notify as well
> since the same format is used.
> 
> I'd guess that that should be doable in the same timeframe
> as LISP-SEC (or could even be incorporated into that document
> maybe if that's what you want) since its a small piece of
> work really if someone's available to do it.
> 
> If the WG just don't want to take on that work then we probably
> need to revisit the resolution of the DISCUSS point to further
> figure out the implications of replayed Map-Register messages.
> 
> So, does the above sound like a plan?
> 
> Thanks,
> Stephen.
> 
> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp/ballot/#stephen-farrell
> [2] 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-ms/ballot/#stephen-farrell
> 
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