Dear all,

I will not interact with the mailing list for now to avoid putting
biased in the discussion. As soon as I will see a convergence
to something, I will reflect this in the draft and propose a new
version for revision.

Thank you all  for your contribution.

Damien Saucez

On 21 Mar 2013, at 11:11, Ronald Bonica <[email protected]> wrote:

> Damien,
> 
> In order to shed light on the relative merits of Options 1 through 6, you 
> might want to consider the following attack in the threats document.
> 
> Modifying the Reference Network slightly, the LISP site at the bottom of the 
> diagram is served by LR3 and LR4 (as it is in Figure 1). Behind LR3 and LR4 
> are two CPE routers, called CPE1 and CPE2. Behind CPE1 and CPE2 are IPv4 
> subnets A-Z. Each subnet is numbered from a /24. On average, 25 hosts are 
> attached to each subnet.
> 
> An attacker sends a continuous stream of traffic towards the site. The stream 
> is not particularly large, when compared to the aggregate of traffic flowing 
> into the site. However, it does contain over 1K PPS. Each packet contained by 
> the stream is unique, in that it contains:
> 
> - a spoofed source address that is selected at random from a pool of valid 
> IPv4 prefixes
> - a destination address that is selected at random from subnets A-Z
> - protocol and port numbers that are selected at random from a pool of 
> protocol and port numbers that represent applications that are likely to be 
> running at the site
> 
> The attack stream can be sourced by either SA, by a host on the global 
> Internet that is connected via a PITR, or by HA, if L1 and L2 don't validate 
> source addresses as they should.
> 
> Now assume that LR3 and LR4 allow the stream to pass into the site (Option 
> #1). CPE1 and CPE2 will send an ICMP Destination Unreachable Message in 
> response in response to each packet that is destined for an address to which 
> no host is assigned. The hosts will most likely send an ICMP Port Unreachable 
> message in response to each packet that is actually delivered to the host. 
> Because each ICMP message is destined for a randomly selected, spoofed 
> address, EID-to-RLOC cache thrashing is a real possibility.
> 
> Option #5 prevents cache thrashing by sizing the cache appropriately. Option 
> #6 allows LR3 and LR4 to provide continue to serve the site, even in the face 
> of cache thrashing. None of the other options appear to help much.
> 
> Do you agree? If so, are Options #5 or #6 required whenever LISP is deployed 
> in an uncontrolled environment (e.g., on the global Internet)?
> 
>                                      Ron 
> 
> 

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