I am not sure what would go in the introduction document that would address Radia's concern.

Each mapping system document includes security considerations that are specific to that mapping system. The Original BGP based system has one set of properties, the DDT one (which we will be advancing after the blocking documents are cleared) as a different set. The introduction document is not a requirements document driving that work, but rather an explanation. I suppose we could add a short paragraph that notes that individual mapping systems need to address traffic misdirection threats, and that the mapping system interfaces (Map Servers and Map Resolvers, and the protocol between ITRs/ETRs and those components) need to address a multitude of security issues. But would that kind of text really help the introduction?

I very much don't want to see this document getting into the question of why not to use DNS as the mapping system, or a DNS clone, or ... One of the keys to the LISP design is that different mapping system designs can be and are being tried. One of the challenges in writing this introduction is to reflect the existing RFCs while allowing for the new work such as DDT that we know the working group plans so as not to obsolete this introduction.

Yours,
Joel

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It appears the SecDir review didn't make it to LISP list for some reason.
  There is one important security request from Radia's review and many
other good suggestions.

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg05415.html

Expanding the Security Considerations section would be helpful, here is
the background on the request:

There is a security considerations section, which focuses on a class of
denial of service attacks. There are presumably security considerations
sections in the other documents, including one that focuses entirely on
security, so it is not necessary that all security issues be brought up
here. That said, I think that if you were to write an "introduction to
security considerations", there are more important ones than the DoS
threat.
in particular, as a routing protocol care must be taken to make sure a
bad
actor cannot attract someone else's traffic with mechanisms like those
we
are trying to address with BGP security. Much of the routing information
is
maintained in a database "like DNS". If it *were* DNS, DNSSEC could be
used
to address the integrity issues. If it is home grown, some equivalent
mechanism will be necessary.  Why not use DNS?


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Please do look at the other suggestions from the review as they should
help clarify a few points in the draft and provide the background needed
for an introduction draft.
https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/secdir/current/msg05415.html




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