On 05 Nov 2015, at 10:33, Dino Farinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> By seeing Alberts presentation on SFC today I was just thinking that we 
>>> could
>>> split 6830 in two documents.
>>> 
>>> One document to present the data-plane (mostly Sec 5).
>>> 
>>> One document to present the control-plane (mostly Sec 6).
>>> 
>>> As Albert said the mapping system is generic (with LCAF).  Therefore it 
>>> would
>>> make it more logical (to me at least) to have a document to strictly talk 
>>> about
>>> the mapping system and it would increase the appeal of the mapping system by
>>> not requiring people to care about the LISP encapsulation if they only need 
>>> the
>>> mapping system function.
>> 
>> The mapping system is in a separate document and spread across alt, ddt, and 
>> ms specs. The control-plane text in RFC6830 is defining an API to the 
>> mapping system. And I think you want it all in one place for completeness.
>> 
> 
> When  I was talking about mapping system, I was talking about the
> “API” (Map-Request, Map-Reply, Map-Register… ).
> 
> I understand that it is not straightforward to make it in a nice way, but
> the as LISP is about decoupling control-plane and data-plane it would
> make sense to also decouple control and data-plane definition.
> 
> Imagine you want someone to only implement the control-plane, how
> does he know what to implement exactly to be fully compliant? 

This is clearly stated in RFC6830. That is, you can send a Map-Request for any 
reason. It doesn’t have to be invoked by arrival of a packet on an 
ITR/RTR/PITR. Tools like lig and rig are examples of this.

Dino

> 
> Damien Saucez 
> 
>> Dino
>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Damien Saucez 
>>> 
>>> On 27 Oct 2015, at 01:25, Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It seemed to us that there was likely some confusiona bout how we expect 
>>>> to handle the revision of RCC 6830.  The following is what we currently 
>>>> expect.
>>>> 
>>>> Once we have a new charter approved, the chairs will appoint an editor for 
>>>> the revision of rfc6830.  That may be one of the existing authors, or a 
>>>> new person.  We will ask for volunteers.
>>>> 
>>>> Once we have an author, they will submit a starting ID called 
>>>> draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6830bis-00 which will be identical in content to the 
>>>> existing RFC.  That may require assistance from the RFC Editor to ensure 
>>>> that we get all the changes they made during final edit.
>>>> 
>>>> At that point, we will use the trouble ticket system to record issues that 
>>>> people bring up.  We will also discuss on the list what changes we wish to 
>>>> make according to the charter.  Things will tehn proceed in the usual 
>>>> fashion, using the trouble ticket system to help make sure we do not drop 
>>>> any of the issues.
>>>> 
>>>> Yours,
>>>> Joel & Luigi
>>>> 
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