Hi Dino,

If I were the editor of the document, I would follow 8126.

Thank you. 

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Dino Farinacci [mailto:[email protected]]
> Envoyé : jeudi 25 octobre 2018 17:04
> À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN
> Cc : Luigi Iannone; [email protected]
> Objet : Re: [lisp] draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6833bis-19: Reserved/Unassigned
> 
> It doesn’t *have to be* what 8126 is. It needs to be what we believe the the
> unassigned bits are labeled.
> 
> Dino
> 
> > On Oct 24, 2018, at 10:02 PM, <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dino,
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > I’m afraid that « reserved and unassigned » is still not appropriate (see
> 8126). Please change it with “unassigned and available for future use”.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> >
> > De : Dino Farinacci [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Envoyé : jeudi 25 octobre 2018 05:05
> > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN
> > Cc : Luigi Iannone; [email protected]
> > Objet : Re: [lisp] draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6833bis-19: Reserved/Unassigned
> >
> > How about these changes? So we can not over complicate this.
> >
> > Dino
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 24, 2018, at 2:24 AM, <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Luigi,
> > >
> > > Fully agree that changing the text and updating the figures would be
> appropriate.
> > >
> > > Please note that a similar action is needed for draft-ietf-lisp-
> rfc6830bis-24, e.g.,
> > >
> > >   R: The R-bit is a Reserved bit for future use.  It MUST be set to 0
> > >      on transmit and MUST be ignored on receipt.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Med
> > >
> > >> -----Message d'origine-----
> > >> De : Luigi Iannone [mailto:[email protected]]
> > >> Envoyé : mercredi 24 octobre 2018 10:01
> > >> À : Dino Farinacci
> > >> Cc : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN; [email protected]
> > >> Objet : Re: [lisp] draft-ietf-lisp-rfc6833bis-19: Reserved/Unassigned
> > >>
> > >> Hi All,
> > >>
> > >> disclaimer: this is my personal point of view.
> > >>
> > >> I didn’t catch before this part of RFC 8126. Thanks Med from bringing it
> up.
> > >>
> > >> While I understand Dino’s reply, because I my self as well always
> thought
> > >> “reserved = can be used in the future”, I think that Med is right.
> > >>
> > >> To be compliant with RFC 8126, and because we may need those “reserved”
> bits
> > >> in the future, we better mark them as “unassigned”.
> > >> This means changing the text and clearly spell out that this is conform
> to
> > >> RFC 8126 definitions.
> > >>
> > >> At the end, it is as simple as adding the following sentence in section
> 2
> > >> “Requirements Notation”:
> > >>
> > >>       The  “Unassigned” and “Reserved” terminology for bits and fields
> of
> > >>       messages and headers defined in this documents is the Well-Known
> > >>       Registration Status Terminology defined in Section 6 of [RFC8126].
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Then we just replace “reserved” with “unassigned” throughout the
> document.
> > >>
> > >> Ciao
> > >>
> > >> L.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> On 23 Oct 2018, at 18:27, Dino Farinacci <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I am not sure if we should make this distinction. What does the WG
> think?
> > >> Because fields marked “reserved” are obviously unassigned and don’t know
> if
> > >> they will be assigned in the future.
> > >>>
> > >>> So I am not sure how helpful in making the distinction.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dino
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Oct 23, 2018, at 12:44 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hi Dino, all,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Apologies for raising this late easy to fix comment:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> RFC8126 says the following:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>     Unassigned:  Not currently assigned, and available for assignment
> > >>>>                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >>>>           via documented procedures.  While it's generally clear that
> > >>>>           any values that are not registered are unassigned and
> > >>>>           available for assignment, it is sometimes useful to
> > >>>>           explicitly specify that situation.  Note that this is
> > >>>>           distinctly different from "Reserved".
> > >>>>
> > >>>>     Reserved:  Not assigned and not available for assignment.
> > >>>>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> > >>>>           Reserved values are held for special uses, such as to extend
> > >>>>           the namespace when it becomes exhausted.  "Reserved" is also
> > >>>>           sometimes used to designate values that had been assigned
> > >>>>           but are no longer in use, keeping them set aside as long as
> > >>>>           other unassigned values are available.  Note that this is
> > >>>>           distinctly different from "Unassigned".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is well handled in Section 5.1, but not in other sections which
> are
> > >> using Reserved instead of Unassigned as per RFC8126.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It would be appropriate to update the text accordingly. Thank you.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers,
> > >>>> Med
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