Thanks a lot! I believe all my comments are addressed but I’m also not an AD 
anymore…



> On 1. Jun 2020, at 07:55, Fabio Maino (fmaino) 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mirja, 
> Rev -15, that was just published, should address your comments: 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-lisp-gpe/
> 
> Let me know if you have any further comment. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Fabio
> 
> On 3/13/20, 4:19 AM, "Mirja Kuehlewind" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>    Hi authors, hi Deborah,
> 
>    Sorry for being super later on this but I was looking at this document 
> again and I realised that there is still one open issue that needs fixing: I 
> noticed that I also had a discuss point on guidance on DSCP which is not 
> addressed yet. However, the more important and really critical point is that 
> the doc talks about setting the 3-bit Type of Service (ToS) that does exist 
> anymore: RFC1349 was obsoleted by RFC2474, so there is now only a 6-bit DSCP 
> field. This is really a pain point in todays Internet and needs to be fixed! 
> I also recommend to add a reference to RFC2474 (then this problem would maybe 
> have been detected earlier). And still as my discuss says some more guidance 
> on the use of DCSP would be good as well!
> 
>    Thanks!
>    Mirja
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10. Jan 2020, at 20:03, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mirja,
>> 
>> The plan is to Last Call the set of documents (gpe, bis's) and put on a 
>> future telechat. First, the author teams want to ensure they have addressed 
>> all the current Discusses/comments and they are working to get the documents 
>> ready.
>> 
>> Thanks all - the documents are much improved!
>> Deborah
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mirja Kuehlewind <[email protected]> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 5:22 AM
>> To: Fabio Maino (fmaino) <[email protected]>; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Cc: The IESG <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>> [email protected]; [email protected]; Luigi Iannone 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: Mirja Kühlewind's Discuss on draft-ietf-lisp-gpe-05: (with 
>> DISCUSS and COMMENT)
>> 
>> Hi Fabio,
>> 
>> Thanks for all the work. Changes look good to me and I think my discuss 
>> comments are addressed.
>> 
>> One small comment/nit: I think you also should define the “Reserved” field 
>> in Figure 2. It’s not mention in the text, and even though the meaning is 
>> obvious, I assume it was an oversight that it's not described.
>> 
>> Given the large set of changes, it’s good that another wg last call took 
>> place. I think given more or less whole document has changes, it could be 
>> approbate to also have another IETF last call and put it back on a future 
>> telechat agenda. But I let Deborah decide about this. 
>> 
>> Deborah what's your plan here?
>> 
>> Mirja
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8. Jan 2020, at 00:02, Fabio Maino (fmaino) <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mirja,
>>> It took quite some time, but I think we are finally making progress 
>>> with the review of draft-ietf-lisp-gpe and the related LISP RFCbis 
>>> drafts 
>>> (https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf
>>> .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dlisp-2Drfc6830bis_&d=DwIFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQ
>>> icvjIg&r=6UhGpW9lwi9dM7jYlxXD8w&m=P3uTUROTWL7J4b_XZZt4t4VKyYB-AcvU0YVl
>>> PPk33Nw&s=oRnVaMWUr_mvYyEiDEkkNTuBOAIOJ_vBnr3COsvsMrI&e=
>>> , 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dlisp-2Drfc6833bis_&d=DwIFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6UhGpW9lwi9dM7jYlxXD8w&m=P3uTUROTWL7J4b_XZZt4t4VKyYB-AcvU0YVlPPk33Nw&s=3I9q-AoB6EQNPtTNvKH36_EP-xCFPQESZPH7CeFoVuo&e=
>>>   ).
>>> 
>>> Could you please take a look at the latest rev -13 of 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf.org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dlisp-2Dgpe_&d=DwIFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=6UhGpW9lwi9dM7jYlxXD8w&m=P3uTUROTWL7J4b_XZZt4t4VKyYB-AcvU0YVlPPk33Nw&s=BueHq0NVA0sDhX7r1hme2y4YHEnu52LCy7alSTn3nIc&e=
>>>  , and let us  know if we have addressed your comments?
>>> 
>>> Wrt lisp-gpe, compared with rev -05 that you last reviewed, we have done 
>>> two main changes that might help addressing your DISCUSS: 
>>> 1.  We have introduced the concept of shim header, along the line of what 
>>> Mirja suggested in her comment. The chairs thought that the change was 
>>> significant enough to require a new last call with the WG, that we did 
>>> after Singapore
>>> 2.   We have introduced section 4 that, following what done in RFC8085 and 
>>> RFC8086, defines the scope of applicability of LISP-GPE and makes 
>>> considerations related with congestion control, UDP checksum, and ethernet 
>>> payload encapsulation. 
>>> 
>>> Please, let me know if you have any further question or suggestion. 
>>> 
>>> I have attached a diff from rev -05 that is the one to which your ballot 
>>> comments were referring to. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Fabio
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/20/18, 1:22 PM, "Fabio Maino" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>  Thanks for your notes Mirja.
>>> 
>>>  I'll publish an updated rev this evening to consolidate the changes that 
>>>  I believe we have agreed upon, and then I'll work on those that are 
>>>  still open.
>>> 
>>>  Please see below.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On 9/19/18 12:42 PM, Mirja Kühlewind wrote:
>>>> Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for
>>>> draft-ietf-lisp-gpe-05: Discuss
>>>> 
>>>> When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all 
>>>> email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut 
>>>> this introductory paragraph, however.)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Please refer to 
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>>>> g_statement_discuss-2Dcriteria.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg
>>>> &r=6UhGpW9lwi9dM7jYlxXD8w&m=P3uTUROTWL7J4b_XZZt4t4VKyYB-AcvU0YVlPPk33
>>>> Nw&s=LRs3yFVTl5Y1iOdjAu80URJVGsWHi2UmiUaeJ0j9Imw&e=
>>>> for more information about IESG DISCUSS and COMMENT positions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here:
>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__datatracker.ietf
>>>> .org_doc_draft-2Dietf-2Dlisp-2Dgpe_&d=DwIFaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg
>>>> &r=6UhGpW9lwi9dM7jYlxXD8w&m=P3uTUROTWL7J4b_XZZt4t4VKyYB-AcvU0YVlPPk33
>>>> Nw&s=BueHq0NVA0sDhX7r1hme2y4YHEnu52LCy7alSTn3nIc&e=
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>> DISCUSS:
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for addressing the TSV-ART review (and Magnus for doing the 
>>>> review)! I assume that the proposed text will be incorporated in the 
>>>> next version. (Would have been even better if those (larger) changes 
>>>> would have been added before the doc was put on the telechat; please 
>>>> update as soon as possible so other AD can review that text as well).
>>>> 
>>>> However, I think the text still needs to say more about HOW the PCP 
>>>> should be mapped to DSCPs. RFC8325 doesn't provide guidelines but a 
>>>> mapping for 802.11.
>>>> Is the same mapping applicable here?
>>> 
>>>  Agree. As pointed out by Magnus' latest email there's more investigation 
>>>  needed here. I'll get back on this.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Also, I'm not an expert for that part, but I guess there also is 
>>>> further guidance needed on HOW to map the VID...?
>>> 
>>>  This is really straightforward, as the VID is a 12-bit field, and the 
>>>  IID is 24-bit. Implementation that I'm aware of typically carve a 
>>>  portion of the IID space to encode the VID.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>> COMMENT:
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> -
>>>> 
>>>> Given this doc uses the last reserved bit in the lisp header, I would 
>>>> really like to see more discussion how the data plane lisp can still 
>>>> be extended. I think the solution is straight-forward (define a shim 
>>>> layer for the extension and announce this capability in the 
>>>> Map-Reply), however, spelling this out seems to be appropriate for this 
>>>> doc.
>>> 
>>>  Correct, that's the idea. I'll add a sentence that states that a 
>>>  lisp-gpe next protocol header can be used to extend the lisp data-plane 
>>>  functions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Fabio
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <Diff_ draft-ietf-lisp-gpe-05.txt - draft-ietf-lisp-gpe-13.txt.pdf>
>> 
> 
> 

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