Hi all

I'm aware of implementations of RFC 8059 by Cisco. Does anyone know of
other implementations?

Regards,
Stig

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:12 AM Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>   An update on this thread:
> - A good amount of offline discussions happened on this topic, we (Dino 
> Farinacci, Stig Venaas, Victor Moreno and myself) have the following updates:
>         o Instead of proposing a new TLV, we have an alternate proposal to 
> extend the Receiver ETR RLOC Attribute [RFC8059].
>         o Currently the Receiver ETR RLOC Attribute is specified to carry 
> only unicast IPv4/6 address, but the term RLOC [RFC8378] can also be used to 
> include multicast IPv4/ v6 address.
>         o Hence we propose to extend the specification of Receiver ETR RLOC 
> Attribute to carry both unicast and multicast iPv4/6 address.
> - We would like to know about concerns/ thoughts from WG members in making 
> the above extension:
>         o Are there any functional / interoperability issues expected? What 
> happens when existing implementations of RFC8059 receive a PIM J/P with the 
> above attribute carrying a multicast address ?
>         o Are there other design considerations we need to take into account 
> here that go against the proposed extension.
> - Based on the outcome of the above discussion a -01 version of 
> draft-vgovindan-pim-jp-extensions-lisp may be resubmitted.
>
> Thanks
> Prasad
>
> From: pim <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Vengada Prasad Govindan 
> (venggovi)
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 13:54
> To: [email protected]
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [pim] Requesting comments on 
> draft-vgovindan-pim-jp-extensions-lisp
>
> Not sure if the LISP WG alias was correct. Apologies if you receive multiple 
> copies.
>
> Thanks
> Prasad
>
> From: Vengada Prasad Govindan (venggovi)
> Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2021 13:50
> To: lisp <mailto:[email protected]>
> Cc: mailto:[email protected]
> Subject: Requesting comments on draft-vgovindan-pim-jp-extensions-lisp
>
> Hello LISP/ PIM WG members,
> 1. Problem Statement : In a multi-site LISP topology 
> [https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/72/slides/RRG-3.pdf], the site border nodes 
> operate in 3 different PIM domains (2 in the underlay, one facing the LISP 
> site and one facing the transit site and the third domain in the overlay):
> a. An important point to consider here would be the practical value of 
> reusing the same locator address of the border node in both site-facing and 
> transit-facing directions.
> b. Given the above consideration of reusing the locator address in both 
> directions, using the same underlay multicast address range in the 2 
> different underlay PIM domains may cause packet loops.
> c. This is because the hashing of the overlay parameters to obtain the 
> underlay group could result in hash collisions as described in Sec 8.1.2 of 
> RFC 6831
> d. The LISP border nodes downstream also face similar constraints.
> e. Hence, we propose a reasonable trade-off to make extra copies of the 
> packet at the site border using different multicast address ranges to avoid 
> packet loops. However this need not always de-generate to ingress replication.
> 2. The base idea of the draft is an extension of the RLOC receiver TLV 
> specified in RFC8059. While RFC8059 defined the TLV for Ingress Replication 
> (LISP Multicast over Unicast tunnels), the new draft tries to define TLVs 
> needed for LISP multicast over Native multicast.
> 3. For a background on PIM J/P attribute hierarchy, please see 
> [https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/94/slides/slides-94-pim-1.pdf]
> 4. This draft was 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/110/materials/slides-110-pim-jp-extension-lisp-multicast-underlay-00.pdf
>  to PIM WG @ IETF-110.  Minutes are recorded 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-110-pim/.
> 5. It has been suggested to consider this draft for presentation at the 
> upcoming LISP WG meeting. Requesting questions/ comments about the draft in 
> the mailing list.
>
> Note: [https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/72/slides/RRG-3.pdf] - Slides 12-14 
> in particular provides the protocol sequences. Also explained in RFC 6831
>
> Thanks
> Prasad
>
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