Hi Luigi,

That sounds good to me, thanks. I’ve removed my BLOCK in anticipation of the 
changes.

And yes, in my COMMENT, by “final bullet” I meant


  *   LISP Applicability: LISP has proved to be a very flexible protocol that 
can be used in various use cases not considered during its design phase. 
[RFC7215<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7215/>], while remaining a good 
source of information, covers one single use case, which is no longer the main 
LISP application scenario. The LISP WG will document LISP deployments for the 
most recent and relevant use cases, so as to update and complement 
[RFC7215<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7215/>] as needed.

—John

On Nov 30, 2023, at 5:48 AM, Luigi Iannone <[email protected]> wrote:


Hi John,

Please see my comment inline.

On Nov 29, 2023, at 19:41, John Scudder via Datatracker <[email protected]> 
wrote:

John Scudder has entered the following ballot position for
charter-ietf-lisp-04-04: Block

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BLOCK:
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I'm a little concerned about the unbounded scope the proposed charter gives the
working group. I am balloting BLOCK until we have a chance to discuss this:

"The LISP WG is chartered to continue work on the LISP protocol, including
extensions for which the working group has consensus on deeming them necessary".


The “extensions” part was the limitation, with the idea of not starting do 
everything and anything.



It's very hard for me to imagine anything at all that would be out of scope
according to that criterion, and that tells me the proposed charter should be
made more specific. A first question to think about might be "necessary
according to what metric or criterion?"


Fair enough. What if we add “… deeming them necessary for the use cases 
identified by the working as main LISP applications. Such use cases have to be 
documented in an applicability document providing rationale for the work done.

This would related with the last milestone about applicability document.

We can also add “minor” before “extension” to better clarify that we are 
talking about limited extensions.

Do you think this goes in the right direction?
Do you have a better idea?


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COMMENT:
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"LISP technology has a wide span of potential applications beyond simple
routing."

As Martin pointed out, this statement on its own doesn't seem to add anything.
To the extent there is something concrete here, doesn't the final bullet
capture it?

Not sure which final bullet you refer to. The applicability document?

Ciao

L.






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