At 05:19 PM 1/28/99 -0800, Lazlo Nibble is said to have written:
>
>So your ISP should be black listed because I put your name in the From
>line (return address) and the reply-to line above? So wonderful of
>your ISP to make a safe home for me.
>
>At least that was my understanding of what Ivan said --

Have you been reading this thread?  Someone pointed out that they had been
screwed over in exactly that manner and had *not* been RBL'd.  The
investigation proceeded, and nothing happened.  

It only happens when the ISP fails to reply to complaints or to RBL and
indicate that an investigation has been done and that this was a forgery.
That is, whn someone says, "I'm not a spammer, I just provide maildrops for
them."  Or does not respond to spam complaints at all.

As this person apparrently did.

People who use the RBL list have decided that one of the responsibility of
someone who runs an ISP is to not provide a home for or other services to
spammers.  I personally extend this to providing DNS services and other
incidental services that enable the spammers to function on the net, and
not only direct incidentals such as maildrops and web sites.  They have
also decided that they don't want to work and play with people who do not
shoulder those responsibilities.

This is an anarchy - you can make up an equally arbitrary set of rules for
those you will work and play with, such as, "no Z in the domain name" or
"address does not end in '9' when expressed in dotted decimal."  And you
can make up your own blackhole list and try and convince others to adopt
your rules.  The difference, of course, is that enough people actually
agree with the rules that are embodied in the RBL process that they are
adopted widely enough to cause the people put on the RBL some pain.  

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